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01-22-2012, 12:25 PM
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Winter Classic at Citi Field?

Hi all. I'm a long time reader first time poster. I've read a lot where you guys say we can't have the winter classic here in NY because of the Pinstripe bowl. Why couldn't they have it at Citi Field? I mean it's a hockey game and Citi Field is just as convenient as Yankee Stadium.

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Hi all. I'm a long time reader first time poster. I've read a lot where you guys say we can't have the winter classic here in NY because of the Pinstripe bowl. Why couldn't they have it at Citi Field? I mean it's a hockey game and Citi Field is just as convenient as Yankee Stadium.

Well Yankee Stadium, even if it is the new one, has more history already.

Something to keep in mind though the pinstripe bowl contract expires in 2013 and since the Rangers likely won't be in the Winter Classic in 2013 they could have it at Yankee Stadium in 2014.

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Hi all. I'm a long time reader first time poster. I've read a lot where you guys say we can't have the winter classic here in NY because of the Pinstripe bowl. Why couldn't they have it at Citi Field? I mean it's a hockey game and Citi Field is just as convenient as Yankee Stadium.
I think the main reason is that the league would rather do it at Yankee Stadium. Once they go to a city, odds are they're not going back for a while. So, they'd rather wait for Yankee Stadium to become available so they don't "waste" their NY Winter Classic in Citi Field.

It's not that Citi's a bad spot for it, but Yankee Stadium just has much greater marketability than Citi Field has. Would probably have much more interest throughout the rest of the country to have it at Yankee Stadium vs. Citi Field.

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I think the Yankee Stadium vs. Citi Field thing means more to New Yorkers than anyone else. There's obviously some marketability difference, but I think most people will look at the game simply as hockey played outdoors. Can't really see anyone that would otherwise be interested in the game not tuning in simply because the game is at Citi.

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Yankee Stadium is way more marketable than Citi Field, and the Classic is all about marketability.

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I think the Yankee Stadium vs. Citi Field thing means more to New Yorkers than anyone else. There's obviously some marketability difference, but I think most people will look at the game simply as hockey played outdoors. Can't really see anyone that would otherwise be interested in the game not tuning in simply because the game is at Citi.
How marketable is Citizens Bank Park really? If it's in NY, that's all the marketing you need.

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Yankee Stadium is way more marketable than Citi Field, and the Classic is all about marketability.
The novelty is the game is outside and whatever story they want to create about the two teams playing each other. The venue they pick is well secondary.


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Yankee Stadium.

Rangers vs. Bruins.

Epic.

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I would love a game at Citi, it's 5 minutes form my house.

(Yes I'm a Yankees fan living 5 minutes from the Mets )

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How marketable is Citizens Bank Park really? If it's in NY, that's all the marketing you need.
This is my thinking as well.

I understand the point about the marketability of the two venues, I just disagree that it's of large significance.

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didnt citifield offer to have the game there and the nhl said no thanks? i remember reading that somewhere.

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This is my thinking as well.

I understand the point about the marketability of the two venues, I just disagree that it's of large significance.
Well if it is the bruins it could add another significant rivalry angle.

Yankees vs. Red Sox and now Rangers vs. Bruins.

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CitiField ? I can see it now, NBC with aerial shots of the junkyard arcoss the street
. Gotta go with Yankee stadium

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Id boycott a winter classic at citi field. It would be a joke, thats like choosing the islanders organization to represent the tri state area in some hockey related thing instead the rangers. Its Yankee stadium or bust, you go with the history, tradition, the spectacle of it all.

Plus your combining my 2 favorite sports teams. Imagine a winter classic patch with the yankee stadium facade on it, OMG awesome!!

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Yankee Stadium.

Rangers vs. Bruins.

Epic.
Bingo.

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I bet they are going to do the Allstar game in Yankee stadium for a Allstar winter classic . Rather then giving the Rangers there own

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I bet they are going to do the Allstar game in Yankee stadium for a Allstar winter classic . Rather then giving the Rangers there own
I would prefer this, mesh the two gimmicks together

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Yankee Stadium also has 8,000 more seats than Citi Field.

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CitiField ? I can see it now, NBC with aerial shots of the junkyard arcoss the street
. Gotta go with Yankee stadium
The area looks like Afghanistan.

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didnt citifield offer to have the game there and the nhl said no thanks? i remember reading that somewhere.
Citifield never offered to have the game. There was a rumor originally to that extent but it never happened.

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Yankee Stadium is way more marketable than Citi Field, and the Classic is all about marketability.
That's not a good reason IMO. People would come out regardless.

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The novelty is the game is outside and whatever story they want to create about the two teams playing each other. The venue they pick is well secondary.
The venue would not be "well secondary" if it was Yankee Stadium. The Yankees are arguably the most famous team in all of sports, and Yankee Stadium, even though it's the new one, is one of the most historic venues.

Wrigley Field was heavily marketed a few years back with the Hawks/Wings. I would expect the same, probably more so, if the game was at Yankee Stadium.

Having it at Citi Field would be an absolute joke, and won't happen. Picking Citi Field over Yankee Stadium would be like choosing the Kia over the Rolls Royce.

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Well if it is the bruins it could add another significant rivalry angle.

Yankees vs. Red Sox and now Rangers vs. Bruins.
Yes. But if you hold the WC at Citi Field between the Rangers and Bruins, you could tie it into memories of the Mets and the Red Sox.

And of course, who better to do the honorary puck drop than Bill Buckner?

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The venue would not be "well secondary" if it was Yankee Stadium. The Yankees are arguably the most famous team in all of sports, and Yankee Stadium, even though it's the new one, is one of the most historic venues.

Wrigley Field was heavily marketed a few years back with the Hawks/Wings. I would expect the same, probably more so, if the game was at Yankee Stadium.

Having it at Citi Field would be an absolute joke, and won't happen. Picking Citi Field over Yankee Stadium would be like choosing the Kia over the Rolls Royce.
It's not picking Citi over Yankee Stadium--it's picking Citi because Yankee Stadium isn't available nor willing to host the game on the date the NHL has established for the Winter Classic. What if Yankee Stadium continues to book other events on New Year's weekend? Do we just not host a Winter Classic while waiting for the venue to decide to leave the date open?

Obviously hosting it at Yankee Stadium would provide for an additional marketing angle, but it's far from essential. Again, it's the outdoor concept that's most marketed and most alluring. Do people care about Heinz Field or Citizens Bank Park? No, they care about an outdoor game in Pittsburgh or Philadelphia.

I don't really care what the venue is for us, I just don't want to wait until the Yankees decide they'd rather give the venue to the NHL instrad of hosting two ****** teams in a meaningless bowl game.

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Pass on city. I want no association with this team to the Mets. Go with the Yankees. A winner.

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