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01-22-2012, 06:24 PM
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So you guys think that the marginally better trade is okay?

I guess we know where the line is now.

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01-22-2012, 06:26 PM
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Not really but whatever

Mr Bugg will have an advantage over the majority of GMs with this trade imo.

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01-22-2012, 06:30 PM
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trade is one sided, imo.

i don't know which picks kenora and kimberly have, but it should not be difficult to make it more even.

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01-22-2012, 08:04 PM
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So you guys think that the marginally better trade is okay?

I guess we know where the line is now.
I prefer it without those two other picks to be honest.

The more I think about it the more I DO NOT like:

#23, #170, #151
for
#59, #70, #134

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01-22-2012, 08:08 PM
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I prefer it without those two other picks to be honest.

The more I think about it the more I DO NOT like:

#23, #170, #151
for
#59, #70, #134
I also think

#23, #170
for
#59, #70

Is a fair proposal.

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01-22-2012, 08:11 PM
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I also think

#23, #170
for
#59, #70

Is a fair proposal.
agree

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01-22-2012, 08:15 PM
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I also think

#23, #170
for
#59, #70

Is a fair proposal.
agree

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01-22-2012, 08:18 PM
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I also think

#23, #170
for
#59, #70

Is a fair proposal.
agree

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01-22-2012, 08:23 PM
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#23, #170, #151
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#59, #70, #134
If this one is agreed by both GMs, I don't see a major problem with it.

I wouldn't make the trade myself, but it doesn't give either GM a significant advantage or disadvantage.


I think it's clear that Bugg wins the trade, but I know I wouldn't give up my 1st round pick if I didn't feel I won the trade either!


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01-22-2012, 08:25 PM
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If this one is agreed by both GMs, I don't see a major problem with it.

I wouldn't make the trade myself, but it doesn't give either GM a significant advantage or disadvantage.
I just don't see it as being much better than the original trade, but I guess "just a tiny bit better" is sometimes good enough to push things from unacceptable to acceptable.

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01-22-2012, 08:34 PM
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sorry folks - i've been on the road all day and haven't been able to check the boards.

i've sent an e-mail to bugg - hopefully we can sort this out soon.

my apologies for adding some controversy to the draft.

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01-22-2012, 08:37 PM
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I just don't see it as being much better than the original trade, but I guess "just a tiny bit better" is sometimes good enough to push things from unacceptable to acceptable.
If that is the resulting trade, I feel the trade committee has done it's job in this case. All trades have a winner and loser, but as long as we can eliminate the trades that distort the balance of the draft, I think that's what we should focus on.

I think the changes made, assuming they are agreed upon by the GMs involved, are enough as well.


(having said that, if we can get them to remove the 151 and 134 part, it would be more fair)

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01-22-2012, 08:40 PM
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I said it in the other thread, but I'll say it here too - papershoes and Bugg should both be applauded for the way they are handling the situation.

In ATD 2011, there would be melodrama spewing all over the thread.

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01-22-2012, 09:27 PM
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I said it in the other thread, but I'll say it here too - papershoes and Bugg should both be applauded for the way they are handling the situation.

In ATD 2011, there would be melodrama spewing all over the thread.
I'm kinda pissed I don't get to pick tonight, actually. I also have trade winds brewin' with Reen...I don't want to be on the clock tommorow.

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01-22-2012, 09:32 PM
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I'm kinda pissed I don't get to pick tonight, actually. I also have trade winds brewin' with Reen...I don't want to be on the clock tommorow.
It's nothing sure though.I'm still thinking about it and will sleep on it and look whats going on tomorrow !

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01-22-2012, 09:40 PM
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sorry folks - i've been on the road all day and haven't been able to check the boards.

i've sent an e-mail to bugg - hopefully we can sort this out soon.

my apologies for adding some controversy to the draft.
#23, #170 for #59, #70. I don't like it, but it's what the majority has deemed adequate and I guess I have to go along with that.

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01-22-2012, 09:46 PM
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#23, #170 for #59, #70. I don't like it, but it's what the majority has deemed adequate and I guess I have to go along with that.
You still come away alright with this deal.

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01-22-2012, 09:50 PM
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You still come away alright with this deal.
I just resent the fact I presented not one two but two re-worked trades, and I had GMs not even on the trade committee trying to brow-beat me into a lesser deal. Add in the fact that one such GM immediately tried to use that as leverage in a trade via PM and you can understand why I'm not pleased.

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01-22-2012, 09:51 PM
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#23, #170 for #59, #70. I don't like it, but it's what the majority has deemed adequate and I guess I have to go along with that.
We didn't officially reject your 2nd try - it was in discussion. I think we can all agree that if you want to go through this one, it will be accepted no problem.

I still think you made a really good deal for yourself. 3 Top 70 picks is a great way to start a team.

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01-22-2012, 09:53 PM
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I just resent the fact I presented not one two but two re-worked trades, and I had GMs not even on the trade committee trying to brow-beat me into a lesser deal. Add in the fact that one such GM immediately tried to use that as leverage in a trade via PM and you can understand why I'm not pleased.
Well, that's not exactly nice.

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01-22-2012, 09:59 PM
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EDIT: It wasn't me , I knew it would have been weird.


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01-22-2012, 10:09 PM
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I just resent the fact I presented not one two but two re-worked trades, and I had GMs not even on the trade committee trying to brow-beat me into a lesser deal. Add in the fact that one such GM immediately tried to use that as leverage in a trade via PM and you can understand why I'm not pleased.
I have asked if people had any problem with me giving my opinion on the proposal, and no one wrote any complains. Sorry if it's at the detriment of your own team, but I don't look at the team involve before making my comment. After 8 complete drafts, I think I'm in a situation to give a fair hindsight as to the value of a pick and shouldn't feel embarrass to give my opinion. Too bad this time it goes against you, but you should know it's nothing personal. Actually, you would be surprise to learn that Papershoe is in my own division.

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01-22-2012, 10:11 PM
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Yeah , same with me , papershoes is in my division as well.


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01-22-2012, 10:17 PM
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Okay, we need to get this moving. I think we can all accept a trade based around:

#23, #170 for #59, #70

If those two want to negotiate a small additional swap in Bugg's favor, they can do it later and post it here.

The pick is officially papershoes'

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01-22-2012, 10:21 PM
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I already changed the pick in the draft thread ( for the rounds already written in the OP )

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