Baring mass departure to NA next draft is going to be pretty big in amounts of talent as CSKA and Dynamo are star-studded and there's a young man Nichushkin coming up as well... http://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/wolem1/197708.html
a very nice read...can we sticky that and the MHL thread as well?
I wrote it many times, I am curious who will pick (if any) Dikushin.
IMO CSKA will protect Tolchintsky, Zadorov and one of goalies.
Intresting situation will be in Kazan, they have many 95guys in MHL B. I have no idea how good they are.
We will know scouts rating at 10 may.
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В срок до 10 мая текущего года Центральное Скаутское Бюро публикует итоговые
квалификационные списки участников Драфта, в которые включены Хоккеисты
всех категорий, участвующие в Драфте.
i think cska has more pics to protect more players this year, not sure how to check that.
they can not have more "protect picks" Club has only 3.
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Во время проведения Драфта Юниоров Клубы КХЛ, соответствующие одному из
критериев пункта 1 настоящей статьи, имеют право на преимущественный выбор
до трех выпускников своих хоккейных школ.
yes, CSKA could traded players for picks but it does not mean that these acquired picks are for protection. On other hand, if you have more picks, you can choose more (your) guys.
there is how protection works:
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Порядок использования права преимущественного выбора:
а) Клуб в соответствии с очередностью выбирает из квалификационного списка
игрока, являющегося воспитанником школы одного из Клубов, участвующих в
Драфте;
б) Клуб, воспитавший игрока и соответствующий одному из критериев пункта 1 на-
стоящей статьи, имеет право закрепить его за собой, использовав свое право на
преимущественный выбор. В этом случае первый Клуб делает выбор еще раз;
в) если Клуб не использовал свой преимущественный выбор, игрок закрепляется
за выбравшим его в соответствии с очередностью Клубом;
г) право на преимущественный выбор Клуб может использовать в течение всего
Драфта. Право преимущественного выбора не может быть передано другому
Клубу.
they can not have more "protect picks" Club has only 3.
yes, CSKA could traded players for picks but it does not mean that these acquired picks are for protection. On other hand, if you have more picks, you can choose more (your) guys.
there is how protection works:
Does anyone have a list of MHL teams that have no KHL affiliation (can't protect their players, at all)?
Does anyone have a list of MHL teams that have no KHL affiliation (can't protect their players, at all)?
I can make this list right now from my memory Kapitan, MHK Khimik, Lions of St.Pete (not sure about it, they have connection to SKA), Yunost, Belie Tigre Orenburg, Gazovik, Ladya, Olympia
from MHL B only Irbis Kazan and Riga Juniorshave KHL affiliation.
yes, independent (not khl affiliated) MHL teams can not protect players. This right has only KHL which fulfill one of conditions.
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1. Клуб КХЛ обладает правом преимущественного выбора («защиты») в отношении
выпускников своих хоккейных школ, принадлежность которых к Клубу КХЛ от-
вечает одному из следующих критериев:
а) школа находится в структуре Клуба КХЛ;
б) хоккейная школа находится в договорных отношениях с Клубом КХЛ. Объем
финансирования Клубом КХЛ хоккейной школы составляет не менее 20 млн
рублей в год;
в) в особых случаях принадлежность школы к Клубу определяется по решению Лиги
после предоставления Клубом документов, однозначно подтверждающих при-
надлежность школы к Клубу и наличие у школы достаточного финансирования
для осуществления своей деятельности по подготовке молодых Хоккеистов.
2. Во время проведения Драфта Юниоров Клубы КХЛ, соответствующие одному из
критериев пункта 1 настоящей статьи, имеют право на преимущественный выбор
до трех выпускников своих хоккейных школ.
3. Клубы КХЛ, чьи школы не соответствуют ни одному из вышеуказанных критериев,
не обладают правом преимущественного выбора на Драфте Юниоров.
I don't think other KHL clubs would choose Bukarts as he's a foreigner... well, maybe except LEV, Minsk or Barys. That's why I think he'll go to Riga (if he stays in MHL next year).
He might be chosen in later rounds (as CSKA chose Gigensons) but as he's a foreigner and Riga will have its pick in the first round he's sure to go to Riga, imho.
As for nr.1, my bet now judging by U17 results would be Nichushkin, nr.2 Tolchinsky. Dikushin is in USHL and doing better and better there so I don't think teams will waste 1st round picks on him, thinking that he might return...
vorky, I know how protection works, I meant they may have more picks to draft their own players, so they can protect the 3 and use their other picks to draft their guys.
As for Dikushin - we'll see, I think he will make the NHL one day, but if he doesn't - you better have his rights, that's all I got to say.
Lokomotiv has right to protect unlimited number of their kids for next 5 drafts (years). To compare, other clubs has only 3 choices, Lokomotiv has unlimited amount.
Lokomotiv will be in lottery for 1st overal at KHL draft 2012, plus 21th, 22nd, 23rd team.
vorky, I know how protection works, I meant they may have more picks to draft their own players, so they can protect the 3 and use their other picks to draft their guys.
I know you understand protection rule. I just put rules here for another users who dont know it. And yes, we speak about the same (more picks, more choices)
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I don't think other KHL clubs would choose Bukarts as he's a foreigner... well, maybe except LEV, Minsk or Barys. That's why I think he'll go to Riga (if he stays in MHL next year).
He might be chosen in later rounds (as CSKA chose Gigensons) but as he's a foreigner and Riga will have its pick in the first round he's sure to go to Riga, imho.
I dont think that HC LEV will choose Bukarts, they will choose slovak/czechs and maybe russians (GM is Soshnikov). I have a feeling they will choose Paulovic from swedish J20, prospect of Topoľčany (like Šatan).
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As for nr.1, my bet now judging by U17 results would be Nichushkin, nr.2 Tolchinsky. Dikushin is in USHL and doing better and better there so I don't think teams will waste 1st round picks on him, thinking that he might return...
It all depends on who will pick 1st, 2nd. Now it is Avto, Vytyaz, LEV, Loko. If LEV would win lottery, they was not pick russian (have to pay financial compensation which is not their idea to do). Avto will choose someone from their school (not big budget, the same reason as LEV), Vytyaz we will see. I would say, Loko chose Dikushin or foreigner. Of course, there can be trades during draft day.
I dont think that one of these clubs (plus Spartak or Sibir - btw good scouting) would want to choose Nichuskin or Tolchinstky.
Serebryakov seems to be pretty low rated I think, he is gooood.
I have not seen any rating. I liked Serebryakov at World U17. I am curious he does not play MHL. And coach of MVD is his coach from Dynamo Moscow 95 class.
