See, I have the same stats as the rest of you. But what I've done above is add Even Strength Assists ranking + (PP assists/% of assists) in bold next to your list. Like I've been saying from the beginning, there's no doubt that the guy can pass the puck - well enough, in fact, that even as his ES ice time has gone down over recent years, he continues to rank top 5 perennially in PP Time On the Ice, and consequently still fairly high in overall TOI.
The guy is obviously still useful on the PP, where time and space afford him better passing situations. But realize that 50-60% of his assists in any given year stem from the fact that he played more PP minutes than everyone in the league (not just his team) except between 1 and 4 players every one of those years. Plenty of time for a puck moving defenseman to pick up 2nd assists, and not necessarily indicative of how "good" he is for a team, unless you're on a team with ample cap space that lives and dies by the powerplay and/or has 4 other solid guys holding down the fort at ES.
Since '08/09, he has gone from being a top 10 assists contributor at ES to almost dropping out of the top 30. I've never gone as far as to say that Kaberle is "horrible". But I stand by my opinion that if the Habs wanted to get better, a $4+ million powerplay guy probably wasn't the way to go; especially not one on the decline who exhibits a lot of reluctance to shoot the puck, and has become quite uncommitted and ineffectual in the defensive zone at ES.
Totally agree with what you say about stalling/slowing down the play. On top of that, he's getting to be as easy to read/predict as Gomez, which is obviously a bad thing. If Markov ends up retiring, I guess it won't hurt to have a guy like him around - he does have a good first pass (when he's making the simple plays, and not trying to thread it through traffic). I just don't see it as a good move in a year where there seemed to be opportunity and money available to move forward without taking risks on aging and still relatively expensive reclamation projects. And, since the majority of the game is played at ES, I'd rather give $4+ million (+ term) to someone that doesn't make me cross my fingers for good luck at ES (slight exaggeration).
Great post, explains your point of view alot better than 1 or 2 point per year decline.
I would hope (him not being very old) that the decline is due to psychological factors. When he signed his last contract in TO he took a considerable hometown discount and had to deal year in year out with trade rumors (despite his NTC) due to the fact that he was the only desirable piece. I can't see him having enjoyed his last time in Toronto or Carolina and how he wouldn't fit in Boston with a dump and chase mentality. I could see him finding his game again (possibly with a slight decline) if he starts enjoying playing again.
As far as the MAB comparison goes I would need to see 2 seasons of that kind of production before I consider it as more than an anomaly or product of circumstance (injuries)
Goligoski is also entering his prime and is 7 years younger.
Goligoski has how many 45 pts or more seasons? A: 1
He also spends on average more or less 25 minutes on the ice
No he doesnt... its around 22:00
Bottom line is Kaberle at 10 minutes a game is a terrible addition and contract to this team. Play him 20 minutes with his contract
Kaberle averages around 16:30 minutes, not 10 since joining the Habs. And plays even more when they dress 6 D instead of 7. So I'll ask this:
If Kaberle played 3:30 more per game (at 19 games this is about 60 minutes of ice time total) and was -6 in that time (Goligoski's number) without scoring a single additional point, he'd then be worth his contract?
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I guess. Feel sorry for PK, tho. I wished he fixed his slap shot. No idea how he went from a highly precise shot to what we have right now.
Weber has a more reliable shot, but that's all he's got over Subban regarding PP zone control.
More TOI for Weber might prove to help his tradability. I don't think the problem with the PP is the players. I think it's the strategy they picked, or the lack thereof.
Maybe if PK reduces the time he spends pointing at the arena's roof before making a slap shot (or fake shot... about 60% of the time) it would not alert everyone that he's taking so much time to shoot and they won't have nearly as much time to deflect the shot or block it?
Each time he does that, I'm wondering if he's summoning some kind of magic power. Seriously it gets me sooo mad. And the best thing, is that it doesn't do ***** to the shot's power. Lidstrom, I think, pointed out that slapping from a 90 degrees angle (stick horizontal to ice) has the same power as going all-out PK-Swagger-180-degrees-technique. But I guess it's much more 'gangsta-looking' if you do it his way.
Whatever. Love PK, but fix your ******* slap shot.