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01-25-2012, 05:52 PM
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Matthew Barry also keeps bringing up Clarke MacArthur and his 1 year 1 million dollar deal. He is struggling in Toronto.
Macarthur has 14 goals, 24 points and is a +2 in 42 games. I'd hardly call that "struggling"

He'll easily surpass 21 goals, which is what he had last year. Gunna finish with around 30 i'd wager.


Barry is talking out of his ass.

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01-25-2012, 05:56 PM
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MaCarthur also makes 3.25 for this year and next...

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MaCarthur also makes 3.25 for this year and next...
I'd say that's decent for a guy who is going to average between 50-60 points.

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BTW, it's only Eklund but he's got us linked to Ruutu.
Damn it Eklund

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Malone is about as much of a Lombardi player as there is, just not worth losing Bernier over though.
Without JB, DL has no leverage at all with JQ's contract negotiations starting in July. Remember what Rinne got? Well at this pace JQ will ask for the same or more. Without JB, he has to give it to him or bring in a journeyman. Won't be popular with fans, that's for sure. The only way I trade JB is in a package for a young, top player with a long contract. Managable or not (i.e. - Carter or Nash or someone of that ilk).

But that's just me. What in God's name do I know?

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Kind of random, but does Lombardi have an e-mail that fans can write him to?
He reads all the suggestions made here.

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He reads all the suggestions made here.
And then he drinks.

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Realistically, we won't get better than MacArthur on the free agent market. And he'd be VERY cheap. 3.25 for next year is nothing, so that deal would be nice. Then try to sign Iginla in 2013

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I'd say that's decent for a guy who is going to average between 50-60 points.
Yea, Im just sayin because of barrys report of 1 mill

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01-25-2012, 07:22 PM
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Yea, Im just sayin because of barrys report of 1 mill
He drinks to.

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Stafford makes 4 million? Rough. Andrei Kostitsyn makes over 3 too but he is a UFA.

Moen and Andrei Kostitsyn are both UFA's. That is a problem, so they could walk if we give up a bit.

I am hoping the Blues are shopping Chris Stewart, he is kind of struggling this year. 10 goals in 46 games.

I like Grabner too as he seems to be struggling as well. Dude has amazing speed, but got that new contract after being traded and waived and then having a big year and seems to be struggling.
Grabner's been hampered by a nagging groin injury.Still on pace for 25 goals and making a whopping $1m this season,$2m next season.

Isles with their tight team budget,won't be moving Grabner.They may move impending ufas Nielsen and Parenteau,if they won't sign reasonable extensions.

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Who doesn't? I am drinking 3 beers right now and taking another one in intravenously.

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Dreger is really fanning the flames for Carter. Today he said that Carter is 100% available to be shipped out now.

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besides giordano i really dont see what the flames could offer.

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Dreger is really fanning the flames for Carter. Today he said that Carter is 100% available to be shipped out now.
Dreger also made it sound like the price wouldn't be as high as many of us have speculated. Lombardi better be kicking the tires on a Carter deal

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besides giordano i really dont see what the flames could offer.
Iginla?

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Iginla?
I would love to have Carter. To think he makes a little bit more then a million then Penner is crazy. I say go after it. Carter and Richards did great things in Philly together and with Sutter I dont think things will go out of bounds.

I say do it and do it soon!

Obviously Quick, Brown, Kopitar, Richards, Doughty, Johnson are untouchable I would throw Voynov on that list to because I think so highly of him but I would give up Voy boy for a guy like Carter.

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I just did an article today...on some site I won't mention haha...and I had 7 players listed as targets we should go after..

Moen
Stafford
Kostisyn (Andrei)
Nielsen
Grabner
Brassard
Ruutu



seems like I was in line with what lot of others were thinking.


I think any of those guys would be a huge help.

Seriously Stafford would be awesome on the 3rd line. The guy mucks it up in front of the net. He is taking a lot of criticism this year in Buffalo but that whole team top to bottom is struggling. (aside from Pominville)
You wrote an article today about players we have been discussing here for weeks, and you're surprised that players in your article were in line with our choices? Shocking.

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Moen, AK, and Ruutu would be my choices, any idea on thier price tag?

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You wrote an article today about players we have been discussing here for weeks, and you're surprised that players in your article were in line with our choices? Shocking.
If you don't have something nice to say friend....


Just because people say them doesn't mean I agree. And just because people on here said it doesn't mean I hadn't come to that conclusion myself.

Know who I didn't mention? Carter, Iginla, Nash, Parise...and a whole mess of other **** people have brought up.


y u mad though?


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I would love to have Carter. To think he makes a little bit more then a million then Penner is crazy. I say go after it. Carter and Richards did great things in Philly together and with Sutter I dont think things will go out of bounds.

I say do it and do it soon!

Obviously Quick, Brown, Kopitar, Richards, Doughty, Johnson are untouchable I would throw Voynov on that list to because I think so highly of him but I would give up Voy boy for a guy like Carter.
Thats way to many untouchables... id say our only untouchables are Kopitar, Quick and Doughty and if i had to add a fourth it would be Richards. If we trade Johnson then Voynov could step in, impossible to say exactly how he would do over the long haul but I think he will not only be better defensively but offensively as well.

Who exactly do you expect us to trade if you have all those players as untouchables? We are deepest at D so I think Johnson would be our best asset here.

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If you had Hecht on your want list....you can cross him off now


http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/sa...icle715737.ece


Poor guy just can't stay healthy between the ears. One of those instances where he really should just retire to preserve his health while he can.

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Thats way to many untouchables... id say our only untouchables are Kopitar, Quick and Doughty and if i had to add a fourth it would be Richards. If we trade Johnson then Voynov could step in, impossible to say exactly how he would do over the long haul but I think he will not only be better defensively but offensively as well.

Who exactly do you expect us to trade if you have all those players as untouchables? We are deepest at D so I think Johnson would be our best asset here.
Picks... Prospects... like regular NHL Playoff teams trade.

Need to keep the Core together while adding a guy like Carter. I'm looking for something similar to the Richards trade. If we cant make the trade without gutting the core then we`ll still sit in wait and see mode

Im not a Johnson fan but he does some good things. And you cant get rid of him until Voynov has proven himself a little bit more. I personally think Voynov is going to be the next best thing to Doughty but until he is proven you gotta keep Johnson on the untouchable list.

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Not sure if the Blue Jackets will receive the same equivalent package that they dealt to acquire Jeff Carter (Jakub Voracek, a 1st (8th overall) and a 3rd).

If the Kings were to string together a similar package, I would say Bernier is about equal to Voracek, a former 1st round selection who still has some potential to live up to who has had a so-so career thus far. If they insist on another forward, then the next closest option would be Andrei Loktionov.

With Columbus only having given up one roster player and two draft picks for Carter, I imagine a combination of Bernier along with a decent defense prospect or young defenseman from the roster and another roster player (for salary cap reasons) would be fair compensation.

Bernier or Loktionov
One of Martinez, Hickey or Forbort (or LA's 1st in 2012)
One of Penner or Stoll

for

Jeff Carter
Curtis Sanford (to serve as a backup until the end of the season, as he is a UFA this summer. That is if Columbus is interested in Bernier)

That's a trade I'd make any day. I would pair Carter with Kopitar and Brown and have Williams with Richards and hopefully another player at LW acquired at the deadline who could fill a top six role. If Penner is moved as part of a package, then I'd try to move Stoll for another soon to be UFA.

Maybe Kostitsyn. Although I imagine Montreal would ask for more than just Stoll. Ruutu I would love to have but Carolina isn't going to swap him for another rental. They'd be interested in prospects and/or young players who can step in and make an impact, or high draft picks. Perhaps the Kings could make a separate trade with Columbus (as they did in the past to acquire Modin) and acquire Vaclav Prospal for a conditional pick and a B-level prospect.

Prospal is a playmaking LW who can really help out Richards on the second scoring line. Having Brown-Kopitar-Carter as your top line with Prospal-Richards-Williams as your second scoring line will pretty much have the Kings prepared to make a hard push in the playoffs. They're set on defense and in goal and the only other need to address may be depth on the bottom two lines, but filling up the top two lines certainly helps address the issue they have at scoring depth within the top six.


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01-26-2012, 02:22 AM
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Sounds good to me Ziggy. Pretty much exactly what I have in mind.

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