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01-26-2012, 01:07 PM
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But you know what,s gonna happen ?

Habs will win 8 of their next 10 games and they gonna start thinking about making the playoffs and won't trade anyone. They eventually won't be able to re-sign any of their potential UFA in July.

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Moen for a 2nd pick? In a heartbeat.
Seeing how the canucks can probably end in the top that pick almost becomes a third rounder. i think we can get better the more we wait. Best case scenario is us pulling another rivet type deal. Probably not as good but something close would be great for us.

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01-26-2012, 01:08 PM
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If we trade Moen for a 3rd+ round pick, I'd be disappointed. We should keep him, unless the return is good.
I agree, do not trade Travis Moen. He is a great team guy that will do whatever is asked of him and he is the kind of person you want on your team. The fact that he is being looked at by other teams is a keen indicator of what type of player and person that he is. Keep him and re-sign him for at least 2 more years. Lars Eller would be crushed if Moen is traded. Don't do it.

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01-26-2012, 01:10 PM
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It makes sense

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I'd prefer Rome or Alberts or even Yann Sauvé
Sauvé was the first name that came to mind when I read 'decent prospect'. He looked pretty good when he played in the NHL last year, but Connauton and Tanev will be ahead of him for the foreseeable future and are valued very highly around here. Probably more than any of our forward prospects. Polasek is also gaining fast.


And why would anyone want to trade Price? This year seems like an aberration to me. Like that year when the Flyers ended up picking Van Riemsdyk.

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01-26-2012, 01:12 PM
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Gill was traded for a 2nd and 4th to Pittsburgh, he wasn't traded for a 7th.
We are both wrong, he was traded for a 2nd round draft pick + 5th round draft pick from Pittsburgh

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On July 1, 2006, the Toronto Maple Leafs signed Gill to a three-year deal. Gill had some of the best numbers of his career in Toronto while working on discipline and lowering his penalty minutes. On February 26, 2008, Toronto traded him to the Pittsburgh Penguins for a second round draft pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft and a fifth round pick in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft.

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01-26-2012, 01:17 PM
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We should be looking for another bottom 6 Player like moen tbh. Trading him would be strange. Unless they trade our bad contracts too. Then yeah new start, fine but I'd guess only gill and campoli are sure fire trades, that's my assumption.

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01-26-2012, 01:17 PM
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Moen's a great defensive/PK guy, but Blunden fit in just as well with AK and Eller last game offensively.

He's kind of a spare part as long as you can nag a solid PK guy in the offseason, hopefully one that can slot in at center and win faceoffs (like Betts would've done).

Would re-sign on a 2-year deal with similar cap hit.

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01-26-2012, 01:20 PM
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But you know what,s gonna happen ?

Habs will win 8 of their next 10 games and they gonna start thinking about making the playoffs and won't trade anyone. They eventually won't be able to re-sign any of their potential UFA in July.
That would be such a terrible mistake. Playoffs or not we need to move Moen, Gill and Campoli. Play the young guys and let them get experience.

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01-26-2012, 01:20 PM
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If Gauthier is not able to get a good pick or a player (active NHL) or good AHL or Junior, he should keep Moen and re-sign him. Unless Moen really wants to go.

I am not sure we can replace him that easily.

Gauthier was unable to sign a big gritty 4th line player last July when many were available.
He added Blunden and already had White, Moen and had Conboy in the system.

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01-26-2012, 01:21 PM
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With Gill and Campoli gone, Weber is no more stucked in the depth chart.
you forget we got Markov coming back at some point?

Markov-Emelin
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Weber
(ignore the pairings, weber is still 7th)

and then.. St.Denis, Beaulieu, Tinordi

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01-26-2012, 01:26 PM
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Just out of curiosity, you do watch hockey right?
You don't seem to watch it, though. He's afraid of his own shadow, goes into fights scared stiff. Was brought in as a physical player but only excels on the PK.

Guys like him are a dime and a dozen. I agree that Blunden can take his place easily.

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01-26-2012, 01:29 PM
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If we trade Moen for a 3rd+ round pick, I'd be disappointed. We should keep him, unless the return is good.
He has 2nd rounder written all over him. The Canadiens need to take advantage of the situation they're in. People may forget, but Moen hasn't always been this good with the Habs. He's having his best year this year, and he's put the organization in a nice spot to get a nice return for him. So lets do it. Brandon Prust is a perfect replacement if we can get our hands on him next year. Thankfully as well he's having a bad season, so we might be able to get him for the same 1.5M a year contract we got Moen for.

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01-26-2012, 01:30 PM
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To Vancouver: Travis Moen + Hal Gill
To Montreal: Alexandre Grenier + 2nd round draft pick in 2012

Alexandre Grenier is a 6'5" RW from the Q! I would love him on the 3rd line with Leblanc in the future.
I don't know Grenier but i'd put a price tag of a 2nd each for Gill and Moen...so if he's more intriguing than a 2nd id go for it, otherwise no.

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01-26-2012, 01:31 PM
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Perfect. I like the guy but we need to move him
Why do we need to move him?

I'd try to re-sign him first. Only after he confirms he wants to test the market would i say we need to move him.

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01-26-2012, 01:32 PM
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I wanna trade Price,that's how you rebuild in one year.

None of this tank for 3 years stuff..

I wouldnt say I want to trade Price but I would for the right offer.

I would probably expect so much that no team in the league would bother....

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01-26-2012, 01:32 PM
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You don't seem to watch it, though. He's afraid of his own shadow, goes into fights scared stiff. Was brought in as a physical player but only excels on the PK.

Guys like him are a dime and a dozen. I agree that Blunden can take his place easily.
And boom there goes your credibility

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01-26-2012, 01:34 PM
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That would be such a terrible mistake. Playoffs or not we need to move Moen, Gill and Campoli. Play the young guys and let them get experience.
If what Habitue said comes true, the only guys we'll probably move are Campoli and Weber (if Markov returns). Honestly, most GM's would probably do the same thing, too.

If it were me, everything would ride on Markov. If he returned before the deadline (looking doubtful, but lets say he did) and the Habs were in the midst of this 8 out of 10 run (also doubtful), then and only then, would i stay the course and keep guys like AK, Moen and Gill. Otherwise I'd definitely go into sell mode.

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01-26-2012, 01:35 PM
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I wouldnt say I want to trade Price but I would for the right offer.

I would probably expect so much that no team in the league would bother....


As i said yesterday,Columbus is desperate.


to Montreal:2012 1st rounder, Brassard, player, pick
to Columbus: Price.


Habs get 2 first rounders in 2012 draft, pick the names.

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We should be looking for another bottom 6 Player like moen tbh. Trading him would be strange. Unless they trade our bad contracts too. Then yeah new start, fine but I'd guess only gill and campoli are sure fire trades, that's my assumption.
We already have one in Ryan White when he's ready to play. Blunden is starting to look decent in his role also..

Hopefully PG will meet with Moen before the deadline and ask him if he wants to re-sign.. If he doesn't trade him for the best offer.

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01-26-2012, 01:41 PM
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Why do we need to move him?

I'd try to re-sign him first. Only after he confirms he wants to test the market would i say we need to move him.
because moen is the type of guy that fits perfectly on contending teams. The habs can get something for him now, and when then the habs are contenders down the road, they can find another moen. This is all about managing assets.

I've always liked moen but this is a good chance at getting a 3rd round pick or maybe even a 2nd. Or perhaps an interesting prospect. I imagine the demand would be high.

Other GMs arent stupid. They dont trade for your garbage. If you expect some kind of value in return, the players has to be decent. I know it sounds simple, but people around here fail to grasp this concept.

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01-26-2012, 02:04 PM
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And boom there goes your credibility
at guys getting bent out of shape about freakin Travis Moen. Oh boy.

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We already have one in Ryan White when he's ready to play. Blunden is starting to look decent in his role also..

Hopefully PG will meet with Moen before the deadline and ask him if he wants to re-sign.. If he doesn't trade him for the best offer.
That would be logical.

Moen is a far better player than White/Blunden, neither could replace his penalty killing/defensive ability.

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at guys getting bent out of shape about freakin Travis Moen. Oh boy.
You're completely off your rocker. Moen is one of the better role players in the NHL.

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01-26-2012, 02:09 PM
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You're completely off your rocker. Moen is one of the better role players in the NHL.
Not that he isn't a solid role player. But he IS a role player. Let's not go crazy.

And he's been a complete physical disappointement since his coming here.

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