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01-26-2012, 01:08 PM
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Frolik to NYR

Been kicking this idea around on the Rangers board. I think he's got enough bounce-back potential that the Rangers might be interested, and he'd likely fit in with the personalities in the locker room. He's struggling offensively, but he's solid away from the puck which would give him more leeway with Tortorella if he wasn't putting up the numbers one might expect of a player with his skill level. I.e., he'd likely get the Dubinsky treatment instead of the Wolski treatment.

I feel like he'd be successful playing with Callahan and Richards, and his contract could be a bargain if he can rekindle his offensive game. However, it's not so obscene that the Rangers couldn't waive him without batting an eye.

That being said, what would he cost the Rangers to acquire? Also, would there be any additional value for Chicago if the Rangers didn't send salary back, thus allowing them some wiggle room to target their playoff upgrades?

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is he not a C/ RW?

Rangers have Gaborik, Callahan, Prust on RW and at C, Richards, Stepan, Boyle/Anisimov

LW is the target to me

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is he not a C/ RW?

Rangers have Gaborik, Callahan, Prust on RW and at C, Richards, Stepan, Boyle/Anisimov

LW is the target to me
He can play either side. So can Callahan.

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He can play either side. So can Callahan.
if he can play LW its not a bad option but the Hawks are a contender so they need a good young player back I assume. I would not do Anisimov straight up for example

Also I see some people saying Callahan can play LW but I never seen it except for the PP.

I still think a rental like Smyth, Whitney , Rutuu is the target on LW but thinking outside the box guys like Frolok make sense.............his name is close to Frolov though so thats not good

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Been kicking this idea around on the Rangers board. I think he's got enough bounce-back potential that the Rangers might be interested,
Teams in first looking to make a playoff push, aren't often looking for bounce back potential.

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Teams in first looking to make a playoff push, aren't often looking for bounce back potential.
He is a pretty knowledgeable Rangers fan...

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Frolik was a healthy scratch vs. Nashville on Tuesday. At his salary and lack of production, I doubt it would take much to acquire him.

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I've always thought he would fit great with Torts and NYR. A 4th should get this done.

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I've always thought he would fit great with Torts and NYR. A 4th should get this done.
How about a Wolski/Frolik swap?

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How about a Wolski/Frolik swap?
No, don't want salary back. Although, I believe Wolski is a free agent after this year? If that is the case, then it wouldn't bother me. He might click, but if not, we waive him.


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Pass. Not another enigma. And I'm not sure he's an upgrade compared to what the NYR currently have in their top six

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He was a beast in the playoffs last year, something to think about.

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He is a pretty knowledgeable Rangers fan...
I think I am too. This is the type of move the Rangers could make two seasons ago. This year the Rangers should be looking to make a lot of noise in the Stanley Cup playoffs. I can think of a lot of additions who will give them a more likely chance to do that. Let Winnipeg or Toronto make this deal. It is no time to roll the dice for the Rangers.

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I've always thought he would fit great with Torts and NYR. A 4th should get this done.
I would do this from a Rangers prospective. 4th gets it done for me. If he doesn't work out, he can simply be waived.

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I've always thought he would fit great with Torts and NYR. A 4th should get this done.
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Teams in first looking to make a playoff push, aren't often looking for bounce back potential.
Teams looking for long term success certainly are. He's a player that if he's successful could become a piece of the core moving forward. If not, the Whale gets a significant upgrade.

If the rental market is thin, why not spend the same value on something that could potentially benefit us in the short term and beyond?

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Pass. Not another enigma. And I'm not sure he's an upgrade compared to what the NYR currently have in their top six
I disagree. I think he's a better option in the top-six than Anisimov on the wing, and I think he's more talented than Hagelin. He also played very well in the playoffs with Chicago last year.

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Teams looking for long term success certainly are.
I agree. I don't think that long-term success should be the Rangers top priority right now.

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I think I am too. This is the type of move the Rangers could make two seasons ago. This year the Rangers should be looking to make a lot of noise in the Stanley Cup playoffs. I can think of a lot of additions who will give them a more likely chance to do that. Let Winnipeg or Toronto make this deal. It is no time to roll the dice for the Rangers.
Not for a 4th round pick you can't. Pay a high pick and a good prospect for Whitney, Doan, Ruutu, yada yada.. or try an alternative method. To each their own.

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I disagree. I think he's a better option in the top-six than Anisimov on the wing, and I think he's more talented than Hagelin. He also played very well in the playoffs with Chicago last year.
Seems Wolski 2.0 to me.

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Seems Wolski 2.0 to me.
I can understand that, but Frolik actually knows how to play defense quite well and looks like he gives a **** on the ice.

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Frolik is good defensively and protect the puck well. He's just not a good fit in Chicago if he isn't providing anything offensively as well. In NYR, with their style, he's a perfect fit.

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Not for a 4th round pick you can't. Pay a high pick and a good prospect for Whitney, Doan, Ruutu, yada yada.. or try an alternative method. To each their own.
the difference between a 4th rounder and a 2nd and a prospect becomes a lot less when you have a legitimate chance at the Stanley Cup. to me it does anyways.

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noooooooo thank you. maybe over the summer but now is not the time for another Sather experiment trade.

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noooooooo thank you. maybe over the summer but now is not the time for another Sather experiment trade.
Well, if Frolik beasts in the playoffs again, price goes up to at least a 2nd and that's if he's even available anymore.

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the difference between a 4th rounder and a 2nd and a prospect becomes a lot less when you have a legitimate chance at the Stanley Cup. to me it does anyways.
I don't think we're a rental away from a Stanley Cup, but that's just my opinion.

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Good find, Trxjw.

as to cost, thinking salary dump Wolski ok for them if he is up end of year, right? May have to add nominal sweetener, say Ranger 4th, to make it worth their while.

Definitely no on moving Anisimov.

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