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01-27-2012, 10:55 AM
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The current CBA did have a compliance buyout period but the buyouts had to be completed before the CBA began. Late July 2005. The buyouts didn't count against the cap. Goodbye Bobby Holik. The NHL will probably have compliance buyouts again with the same format. Its different from the NBA which allows 1 which can be used at any time during the length of the CBA for a player on the roster as of 7/1/11.

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01-27-2012, 10:58 AM
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Then you're pretty much resigned to the fact we're going to battle with what we've got, because we're not getting really anything of worth without giving any of that up.

Which is fine....but if Im Sather, I certainly hope hes not ruling that all out right off the bat.
I'm not resigned to anything. If we can get improvement from a 2nd round pick, like a Nik Antropov type of deal, then I'm all for it. I don't really see the need to go after major upgrades at this point. Obviously, if someone were to blow us away with an offer, I think harder about it. But is that really realistic? Likely not.

Two things: 1.) If we're slumping hard coming up to the deadline, maybe my tune changes just a little. 2.) I'd be thinking differently if we had been one of the better teams in the league for a couple of years with nothing to show for it. As it is, this is the beginning of our window. I'm not desperate enough to look at changing the team too much just yet.

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01-27-2012, 11:00 AM
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well he's a C, another yr at 4 million

just not sure how that works will all the C's already on the team.
Erm, a center can always move to wing. It's a lot harder to move a wing to center. Why does everyone analyze centers like they are immovable? This is not NHL 2012. Centers can switch to wing any time.

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01-27-2012, 11:01 AM
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Jason Blake has 4g and 4a in 14gp this season. Since he has returned the Ducks have been playing MUCH better. If he can stay healthy, he could be a decent addition depending on the price.
**** no. Sorry. I never want to see him as a Ranger, ever. Plus, Messier would just come out of the woodwork and choke him.

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01-27-2012, 11:07 AM
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Jason Blake has 4g and 4a in 14gp this season. Since he has returned the Ducks have been playing MUCH better. If he can stay healthy, he could be a decent addition depending on the price.
he likely wont cost much and is a UFA next yr...........why do fans have so much hate for him btw?......I remember Avery being accused of calling names but that wasnt true..........whats with Messier and Blake?

anywho not my top choice, more like 5th but reality is there wont be that many options and tons of teams are going for Rutuu.......we really dont know if Whitney will be avail as it depends where the Yotes are...........Morrow, Selanne are rumors right now

As for Roy I just dont see them sliding Stepan over, thats all

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01-27-2012, 11:12 AM
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Morrow has a lot of tread on his tires. 33 years old. Dallas will want a ton. Pass.

The Rangers are a good team. They stayed the course by keeping their players and letting them grow. They didn't trade for quick fixes. They're first in the conference and 2nd overall. Excellent chemistry.

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01-27-2012, 11:17 AM
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I really like how the same people who think WW is crap and not worth a roster spot on our team think that he can be added to a trade for a "legit" scoring threat like Carter, Ryan, etc... If he has no value to the Rangers, then his value around the league is similar. If he has value in a trade, then he could play a role on this team too.
his value in a trade is that he clears the cap space we'd need to bring in a gun - his value to the other team is his expiring contract - his "potential" is an afterthought

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01-27-2012, 11:18 AM
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I don't really see the need to go after major upgrades at this point..
I do. The powerplay is abysmal, and we're going to need it to click come playoff time.

But I certainly see your point and wont be disappointed if they dont make a deal

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01-27-2012, 11:26 AM
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I do. The powerplay is abysmal, and we're going to need it to click come playoff time.

But I certainly see your point and wont be disappointed if they dont make a deal
I'll repeat what I said in the last thread:

Player acquisitions almost NEVER help a struggling powerplay.

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01-27-2012, 11:27 AM
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If I'm Sather, I'm not giving up a single player off this roster, Kreider, Miller, Erixon, McIlrath, or a 1st rounder. Next level prospects and picks, that's it.

This is no time for our eyes to be bigger than our stomachs.
To me, those players could be offered...but if it comes to giving up Carl Hagelin, that to me is where the Rangers should draw the line, especially for Souray or Gleason, who would actually fill a need. Artem Anisimov could also be considered as a trade chip.

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I'm not resigned to anything. If we can get improvement from a 2nd round pick, like a Nik Antropov type of deal, then I'm all for it. I don't really see the need to go after major upgrades at this point. Obviously, if someone were to blow us away with an offer, I think harder about it. But is that really realistic? Likely not.

Two things: 1.) If we're slumping hard coming up to the deadline, maybe my tune changes just a little. 2.) I'd be thinking differently if we had been one of the better teams in the league for a couple of years with nothing to show for it. As it is, this is the beginning of our window. I'm not desperate enough to look at changing the team too much just yet.
When its all said in done I agree that Sather wont move anyone of significance on the roster and keep Miller, Kreider, Erixon, McIlrath

he offers a 2nd as the highest pick and a player like Zuccarello and I think he caves with Thomas for the right guy

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The only thing I would give up if I was Sather, is some sort of package with any of these guys:

Anisimov, Wolski, Thomas, MZA, pick. MAYBE an Erixon or McIrath, too.

I love Anisimov, but I feel he has decent value and can net something decent as the main piece in a deal. He's not a crucial part of our core.

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Would not be disappointed if we acquired Ruutu or Gleason. They would not cost very much in comparison to the other players being mentioned and would fit in well on this roster. I think Ruutu would fit in much better than Gleason, though.

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01-27-2012, 12:29 PM
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Perry would be prohibitively expensive. No way could we afford him.

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As for Roy I just dont see them sliding Stepan over, thats all
So slide Roy over. That's my point.

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Perry would be prohibitively expensive. No way could we afford him.
Kreider, 1st, one of our young d-men.

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01-27-2012, 12:35 PM
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it would be pretty amazing if Selanne ended his career in a Rangers jersey, unfortunately i just don't see that happening.

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Kreider, 1st, one of our young d-men.
as that package might very well seal the deal, i would rather have Krieder imo.

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01-27-2012, 12:49 PM
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i don't know if any teams would take Sauer right now, at least not as a major component in a trade. PCS puts a questionable air on him. Perry or Ryan will have Anaheim asking for Kreider instead of Thomas.

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what do you think the asking price for Morrow (supposing he waives his NMC) would be? He's obviously what EVERY team wants, so I'd imagine that the price is high and would include something we'd be all unwilling to give up.


Kreider, Erixon, and 1st?




Also what do you suppose Ruutu would cost us?

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what do you think the asking price for Morrow (supposing he waives his NMC) would be? He's obviously what EVERY team wants, so I'd imagine that the price is high and would include something we'd be all unwilling to give up.


Kreider, Erixon, and 1st?




Also what do you suppose Ruutu would cost us?
you are talking about 3 first rounders so no way anyone gives that up for a vet ........2nd and a top prospect I would guess

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what do you think the asking price for Morrow (supposing he waives his NMC) would be? He's obviously what EVERY team wants, so I'd imagine that the price is high and would include something we'd be all unwilling to give up.


Kreider, Erixon, and 1st?




Also what do you suppose Ruutu would cost us?
If that is the asking price... the answer is

Nooooooooooooooooooooope.

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Kreider, 1st, one of our young d-men.
If the Rangers had last year's Hart trophy winner, would you trade him for that package?

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To NYR: Kesler

To Van: Perry

To Ana: Kreider, McIlrath, NYR 1st, Raymond

We won't get burned trading Kreider cause Palmieri will stunt his development.

Stepan - Richards - Gaborik
Dubinsky - Kesler - Callahan
Hagelin - Boyle - Anisimov
Rupp - Mitchell - Prust

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as that package might very well seal the deal, i would rather have Krieder imo.
So a package without an NHL roster player can obtain the league's MVP last year?

And you'd rather have Kreider over Perry.

We've officially gone bonkers in this thread.

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