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Lidstom White
Kronwal Stuart
Ericsson Commodore
Smith Janik
I don't follow the Islanders enough to attempt their lines. I'm guessing a deal like this they are losing a top 6 right wing and their 3rd line center.
I don't know if there would be much need for Emmerton but I included him because of the amount of open roster spots. I still think Kindl will be a top 4 Dman and with more playing time will show it. He was one of our steadiest Dmen at the start of the year. Tatar is one of your top prospects. I would rate him just below Nyquist but not by a lot. Of course the first will be a later one but it's still a first.
So would the value be close or would players need to be changed.
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say over payment by Detroit. I doubt that Detroit would move two prospects, one being Tatar, and a first (even though it would be a late 1st) for two players that are UFAs.
Lidstom White
Kronwal Stuart
Ericsson Commodore
Smith Janik
I don't follow the Islanders enough to attempt their lines. I'm guessing a deal like this they are losing a top 6 right wing and their 3rd line center.
I don't know if there would be much need for Emmerton but I included him because of the amount of open roster spots. I still think Kindl will be a top 4 Dman and with more playing time will show it. He was one of our steadiest Dmen at the start of the year. Tatar is one of your top prospects. I would rate him just below Nyquist but not by a lot. Of course the first will be a later one but it's still a first.
So would the value be close or would players need to be changed.
If this were yr 1 of the isles rebuild instead of yr 4,I think Snow would have interest.But,Snow's been stockpiling picks/prospects and has a deep prospect pool.
The NY and Danish press say Snow and Frans' agent are working on an extension.I expect he'll be signed.With a weak looking ufa market,many NYI fans hope Parenteau also agrees to an extension.
Not much interest in trading young,productive nhl vets for picks/prospects.
I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say over payment by Detroit. I doubt that Detroit would move two prospects, one being Tatar, and a first (even though it would be a late 1st) for two players that are UFAs.
Detroit passes on this trade very quickly.
My thinking is you have to give to get sometimes and and if they are able to re-sign these guys they have a legit top 6 right winger that is a right handed shot and a very solid centermen.
If this were yr 1 of the isles rebuild instead of yr 4,I think Snow would have interest.But,Snow's been stockpiling picks/prospects and has a deep prospect pool.
The NY and Danish press say Snow and Frans' agent are working on an extension.I expect he'll be signed.With a weak looking ufa market,many NYI fans hope Parenteau also agrees to an extension.
Not much interest in trading young,productive nhl vets for picks/prospects.
I was taking a look at the amount of UFA's you guys have both at forward and D. 5-forwards and 5 D-men. Kindl, Emmerton and Tatar are all NHL ready and I think on a few teams you would of seen Tatar, Kindl and possibley Emmerton full time last year. I totally understand why you would rather sign the two guys in the proposal but if there is a chance that they won't sign would the value be there.
My thinking is you have to give to get sometimes and and if they are able to re-sign these guys they have a legit top 6 right winger that is a right handed shot and a very solid centermen.
True. Though Tatar is a projected top-6 winger and several years younger than Parenteau. I think he will do very well in Detroit in a few years & Detroit develops players properly.
If I was Detroit, I'd rather have Tatar signed and developing than Parenteau & Nielson who'd I would have to resign.
I think both Nielson & Parenteau will resign with the Islanders.
I don't know much about Kindl & Emmerton aside from hearing the names.
True. Though Tatar is a projected top-6 winger and several years younger than Parenteau. I think he will do very well in Detroit in a few years & Detroit develops players properly.
If I was Detroit, I'd rather have Tatar signed and developing than Parenteau & Nielson who'd I would have to resign.
I think both Nielson & Parenteau will resign with the Islanders.
I don't know much about Kindl & Emmerton aside from hearing the names.
I agree on Tatar. I have been one of his biggest fans since the day we drafted him. If Parenteau would be re-signed and he keeps his level of play for another 3-4 years (he's on 28) I think it could be worth it.
I agree on Tatar. I have been one of his biggest fans since the day we drafted him. If Parenteau would be re-signed and he keeps his level of play for another 3-4 years (he's on 28) I think it could be worth it.
It's nice to see a discussion without name calling and a bunch of #*^&%@$%@& thrown at each other.
True it might be worth it. You never really know unless you try and wait & see. But if I had to choose between Tatar or Parenteau, I'd pick Tatar. I'm waiting to draft him in my fantasy pool already.
It's nice to see a discussion without name calling and a bunch of #*^&%@$%@& thrown at each other.
True it might be worth it. You never really know unless you try and wait & see. But if I had to choose between Tatar or Parenteau, I'd pick Tatar. I'm waiting to draft him in my fantasy pool already.
Can I ask what your team is? Your name (Igloo) made me think of the Pens and then your living in Calgary but from Montreal and you like a Wings prospect.
I was taking a look at the amount of UFA's you guys have both at forward and D. 5-forwards and 5 D-men. Kindl, Emmerton and Tatar are all NHL ready and I think on a few teams you would of seen Tatar, Kindl and possibley Emmerton full time last year. I totally understand why you would rather sign the two guys in the proposal but if there is a chance that they won't sign would the value be there.
If the isles lose Parenteau and Nielsen,that means we'll likely see them telling 20 yr old Nino and 19 yr old Strome to replace those vets and their production.No interest in putting that kind of pressure on 19/20 yr olds.I think there is a very strong chance Nielsen signs an extension.I'm less certain of Parenteau.
I expect De Haan and maybe Donovan,will make the jump from the AHL to the NHL.De Haan was named to the all-star team before going out 4-6 weeks with a shoulder injury.Donovan is 3rd among rookie d-man in scoring.The team already has two youngsters in the top 4,Hamonic and MacDonald.
Can't have to many kids on the blueline,all developing at the same time.
Can I ask what your team is? Your name (Igloo) made me think of the Pens and then your living in Calgary but from Montreal and you like a Wings prospect.
Montrealer born & raised. Been out west a year+. Habs fan. I just follow hockey more than hoping on and off a bandwagon.
If the isles lose Parenteau and Nielsen,that means we'll likely see them telling 20 yr old Nino and 19 yr old Strome to replace those vets and their production.No interest in putting that kind of pressure on 19/20 yr olds.I think there is a very strong chance Nielsen signs an extension.I'm less certain of Parenteau.
I expect De Haan and maybe Donovan,will make the jump from the AHL to the NHL.De Haan was named to the all-star team before going out 4-6 weeks with a shoulder injury.Donovan is 3rd among rookie d-man in scoring.The team already has two youngsters in the top 4,Hamonic and MacDonald.
Can't have to many kids on the blueline,all developing at the same time.
Don't sell the team so short. I doubt they won't be able to sign an UFAs, they're an up and coming team and Snow isn't stupid.
As for the deal, I wouldn't want Detroit to pay that high of a price for 2 UFAs. Not to say they're not good players.
Don't sell the team so short. I doubt they won't be able to sign an UFAs, they're an up and coming team and Snow isn't stupid.
As for the deal, I wouldn't want Detroit to pay that high of a price for 2 UFAs. Not to say they're not good players.
I'm not selling the team short.I've watch their offseason move for yrs,read comments from player agents who report their ufas choose other teams,despite the NYI outbidding those other teams.
Frans says he likes it on LI and wants to stay.The isles will have lot of cap space just to reach the cap floor.They might as well spend it on Frans and Parenteau.
With Nino/Strome/Ullstrom/Cizkas/De Haan/Donovan/Ness expected to fight for limited number of roster spots,it's kind of hard to get excited about trading quality,young vets for kids.WooHoo
I'm not selling the team short.I've watch their offseason move for yrs,read comments from player agents who report their ufas choose other teams,despite the NYI outbidding those other teams.
Frans says he likes it on LI and wants to stay.The isles will have lot of cap space just to reach the cap floor.They might as well spend it on Frans and Parenteau.
With Nino/Strome/Ullstrom/Cizkas/De Haan/Donovan/Ness expected to fight for limited number of roster spots,it's kind of hard to get excited about trading quality,young vets for kids.WooHoo
Id write more but I'm on my phone, so basic points;
I think the ufa thing for the islanders is coming to an end. With all the young talent, they are an up and coming team with a good owner and cap space.
Also, PA is having a good year, but he looks like the kind of player comin up on that career contract and I wouldn't want to be the team having to give it to him, if I was Snow, id pass on that.
Basically, I think the NYI will be fine in the coming years for ufas.
