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01-28-2012, 07:53 PM
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I agree. I don't think you would get schenn +1st let alone jvr. Schenn is arguably the top prospect in the world.
Are you serious? Stewart is much better than JVR and its not close

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Why would Montreal fan create a thread about Flyers?

We already have JVR thread on this page.. Yes, let's create another one.

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01-28-2012, 08:44 PM
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Avs would be crazy to trade EJ. They didn't trade for him just to flip him again a year later.
Ya! We're not Columbus!

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01-28-2012, 08:47 PM
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JVR + Schenn + 2012 1st + 2013 1st
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Thats just plain stupid. The players the Av's traded for him weren't in JVR's league let alone JVR, Schenn plus a 1st. I'd laugh you right off of the phone
So is trading #1 defensemen when your a salary floor team that has no reason to. So it would take at least one very stupid GM to make it worthwhile.

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01-28-2012, 08:56 PM
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JVR + Schenn + 2012 1st + 2013 1st
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EJ has a lot of value, but not that much value. Those offers mean his value has increased significantly and it has pretty much stayed around the same.

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01-28-2012, 09:14 PM
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This thread is a joke and EJ is massively overrated, sure he is your #1 d-man but there is no way he is worth JVR + Schenn + 1st. Not to mention he is too damn inconsistent, fumbles the puck way too much on his stick and brainfarts addict in his own end.

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01-28-2012, 09:17 PM
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Why would Montreal fan create a thread about Flyers?

We already have JVR thread on this page.. Yes, let's create another one.
Because there are other fans outside of Flyers/Avs fans.

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01-28-2012, 09:25 PM
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This thread is a joke and EJ is massively overrated, sure he is your #1 d-man but there is no way he is worth JVR + Schenn + 1st. Not to mention he is too damn inconsistent, fumbles the puck way too much on his stick and brainfarts addict in his own end.
I'm sorry, how often do you watch the Avs?

I agree that JVR+Schenn+1st is a bit of an overpayment, but it's much close than just JvR and prying EJ out of Colorado when he's finally playing to his potential would take nothing less than a severe overpayment.

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Are you serious? Stewart is much better than JVR and its not close
How? He's nothing more than a 40 point player this year. His 60 point season can be written off as an anomaly just like JVR's MVP-worthy playoffs.


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How? He's nothing more than a 40 point player this year. His 60 point season can be written off as an anomaly just like JVR's MVP-worthy playoffs.
Sad but true, unless Stewart turns it around that season will be a fluke, just like Grabners season last year.

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How? He's nothing more than a 40 point player this year. His 60 point season can be written off as an anomaly just like JVR's MVP-worthy playoffs.
Look at career pace this season is more of an anomaly......

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How? He's nothing more than a 40 point player this year. His 60 point season can be written off as an anomaly just like JVR's MVP-worthy playoffs.
His 2nd season, he had 28 goals and 64 points. In his 3rd season, he had 28 goals and 53 points in 62 games, an 82 game pace would put those numbers at 37 goals and 70 points. That is significantly better than JVR.

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His 2nd season, he had 28 goals and 64 points. In his 3rd season, he had 28 goals and 53 points in 62 games, an 82 game pace would put those numbers at 37 goals and 70 points. That is significantly better than JVR.
Stewart is more established, JVR has a bit of a higher ceiling. Their value is pretty close imo. To the avs fans clammering for schenn+jvr+1st for ej you are out of your minds. That is more than u paid AND u got a great bottom 6 player plus a 1st. Not even mentioning ejs value has plateaued and technically dropped since it has been a year and he is no different of a player.

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Because there are other fans outside of Flyers/Avs fans.
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Schenn+JVR (but no first) and the Avs would have to add Hejda or Kobasew.

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Schenn+JVR (but no first) and the Avs would have to add Hejda or Kobasew.
That's a big **** NO. If Schenn and JVR are both leaving town, Shea Weber is going to be donning a Flyers uniform.

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01-28-2012, 10:16 PM
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That's a big **** NO. If Schenn and JVR are both leaving town, Shea Weber is going to be donning a Flyers uniform.
Exactly.

I would prefer to keep both.

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That's a big **** NO. If Schenn and JVR are both leaving town, Shea Weber is going to be donning a Flyers uniform.
In b4 avs fans argue that the difference in ej and weber is a 1st going the other way.

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That's a big **** NO. If Schenn and JVR are both leaving town, Shea Weber is going to be donning a Flyers uniform.
Or Suter.

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01-28-2012, 10:26 PM
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Flyers will not trade JVR or Schenn for UFA. Not going to happen.

Not a single team gives up that much

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Stewart is more established, JVR has a bit of a higher ceiling. Their value is pretty close imo. To the avs fans clammering for schenn+jvr+1st for ej you are out of your minds. That is more than u paid AND u got a great bottom 6 player plus a 1st. Not even mentioning ejs value has plateaued and technically dropped since it has been a year and he is no different of a player.
Thanks for contribution considering you've watched him maybe 5 games max, and just looked up his stats a minute before you posted that.

Avs paid a steep price a reason. It's going to take a steeper price to pry him away from Colorado because he's our #1. He was very inconsistent at the start, but since early Jan he has shown more consistency. I don't know how his value has dropped considering he's been way more consistent.

Also, to people saying that Schenn + JVR + 1st is a huge overpayment, lets look at it this way.

JVR vs Stewart - Arguably the same value. Stewart has been in the year for 3 years, broke out 2 years ago and has 2 50-60 point seasons. JVR has had 2 30-40 point seasons and so far looks like he's going to have another 40 point season. Both players are having a bad year. The only thing JVR has is he's 2 years younger.

Schenn vs Shattenkirk - I'm sorry, but I don't see how Schenn has more value. Shatty was amazing on Colorado and he's been amazing for the Blues. Schenn has more potential, but it doesn't mean he'll be able to translate it into the NHL. Shatty has already done that.

Obviously 1st > Second, but Avs had the 32nd pick last year.


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As I said in another, JVR is probably gonna be untradeable at this point in an even deal. He's an enigma projection-wise. Either Philly trades him at 50 cents on the dollar or some team pays a boatload for his potential alone. A GM may make the deal one or the other, but its a big risk.

EJ would be a boatload me thinks and adding Schenn is a non-starter. Not good business sense to deal 2 young players with top end potential just for one top-end potential guy, unless we're talking about Suter or Weber, who are established.

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As I said in another, JVR is probably gonna be untradeable at this point in an even deal. He's an enigma projection-wise. Either Philly trades him at 50 cents on the dollar or some team pays a boatload for his potential alone. A GM may make the deal one or the other, but its a big risk.

EJ would be a boatload me thinks and adding Schenn is a non-starter. Not good business sense to deal 2 young players with top end potential just for one top-end potential guy, unless we're talking about Suter or Weber, who are established.
Avs' GM Sherman has basically bet his career on EJ's development. You can extrapolate as to trade value based on the previous statement.

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