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01-30-2012, 09:26 AM
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They ran into a hot goaltender, and terrible reffing. LE seems to have the Dogs number, they don't seem to play well against them and that was with LE having both their goalies out.

At least Lawson has looked better in the last 2 games as he wasn't very good in the outdoor game.


Also heard that Conboy is now listed as out for the season.
Yeah I heard that as well. Too bad could have used him down the stretch. Do you know what happened? I originally heard he would be back by February.

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01-30-2012, 09:49 AM
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Yeah I heard that as well. Too bad could have used him down the stretch. Do you know what happened? I originally heard he would be back by February.
no, info on injuries is almost impossible to get these days.

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Also heard that Conboy is now listed as out for the season.
He said on twitter he had surgery, so I guess that's quite possible.

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French guy doing great in SEL. Could be a decent NHLer and great AHLer.


http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=8339

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French guy doing great in SEL. Could be a decent NHLer and great AHLer.


http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=8339
Decent offence not bad size with speed and stickhandling and a good PK.Sounds alright for 26 yr.LW.

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This is something I'd like to see next year...

Leblanc Engqvist Kristo
Gallagher Bournival Palushaj
Holland Dumont Qualier (or Avtsin)
Conboy Fortier (or Nattinen) Schultz

I like Avtsin, but he hasn't progressed very much this year..we'll see what happens

Beaulieu (6ft3) Henry (6ft5)
Ellis (6ft2) Tinordi (6ft7)
St Denis (5ft11) Pateryn (6ft3)
Nash (6ft3)

(i'm ignoring which side they play on)

One of these d-men does not belong

I actually like Brendon Nash a lot and hopefully he's healthy enough next year to play in the top 6.

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This is something I'd like to see next year...

Leblanc Engqvist Kristo
Gallagher Bournival Palushaj
Holland Dumont Qualier (or Avtsin)
Conboy Fortier (or Nattinen) Schultz

I like Avtsin, but he hasn't progressed very much this year..we'll see what happens

Beaulieu (6ft3) Henry (6ft5)
Ellis (6ft2) Tinordi (6ft7)
St Denis (5ft11) Pateryn (6ft3)
Nash (6ft3)

(i'm ignoring which side they play on)

One of these d-men does not belong

I actually like Brendon Nash a lot and hopefully he's healthy enough next year to play in the top 6.
Woah Hamilton's defense is going to be like 2 or 3 inch taller on average than Habs defense

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01-31-2012, 08:48 AM
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Woah Hamilton's defense is going to be like 2 or 3 inch taller on average than Habs defense
The Habs have their future in the hands of Clement Jodoin,as Hab fans we get to see what our team will look like by watching these guys go through the growing pains in Hamilton.

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This is something I'd like to see next year...

Leblanc Engqvist Kristo
Gallagher Bournival Palushaj
Holland Dumont Qualier (or Avtsin)
Conboy Fortier (or Nattinen) Schultz

I like Avtsin, but he hasn't progressed very much this year..we'll see what happens

Beaulieu (6ft3) Henry (6ft5)
Ellis (6ft2) Tinordi (6ft7)
St Denis (5ft11) Pateryn (6ft3)
Nash (6ft3)

(i'm ignoring which side they play on)

One of these d-men does not belong

I actually like Brendon Nash a lot and hopefully he's healthy enough next year to play in the top 6.
Beaulieu won't be in Hamilton next year. He'll be back in the Q.

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01-31-2012, 03:01 PM
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Beaulieu won't be in Hamilton next year. He'll be back in the Q.
No, Beaulieu will be in the AHL.

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Beaulieu won't be in Hamilton next year. He'll be back in the Q.
I would be surprised if Beaulieu is back in the Q next year, I expect him to be in Hamilton.

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I would be surprised if Beaulieu is back in the Q next year, I expect him to be in Hamilton.
I suppose it's possible but the historically the Habs have their prospects play 2 years of junior after being drafted. I realize Beaulieu is playing very well but I can see management seeing value in having him dominate in the Q and play World Juniors again.

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I suppose it's possible but the historically the Habs have their prospects play 2 years of junior after being drafted. I realize Beaulieu is playing very well but I can see management seeing value in having him dominate in the Q and play World Juniors again.
That's because most can't go to the AHL until their two CHL years are up. Beaulieu's birthday means he gets to go to the A quicker.

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I suppose it's possible but the historically the Habs have their prospects play 2 years of junior after being drafted. I realize Beaulieu is playing very well but I can see management seeing value in having him dominate in the Q and play World Juniors again.
Usually, you have to wait 2 years anyway because of the CHL to AHL age restriction (20 years old), but Beaulieu is a late '92 (December 5) so I believe he can make the jump next year. It's not like he had anything else to prove in junior anyway...

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I suppose it's possible but the historically the Habs have their prospects play 2 years of junior after being drafted. I realize Beaulieu is playing very well but I can see management seeing value in having him dominate in the Q and play World Juniors again.
Others have mentioned that Beaulieu is a late 92 and is therefore eligible to play in the A next year. However, because of this, he's also ineligible to play for the WJC(I think). So, there's really no reason for him to be there.

...especially not to get stapled to the bench and given 0 pp time for Team Canada. Like, wtf was he there for if not to play on the PP?

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French guy doing great in SEL. Could be a decent NHLer and great AHLer.


http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=8339
Habs have zero room in the AHL next year.

Quailer-Leblanc-Kristo
Avtsin-Bournival-Gallagher
Dumont-Nattinen-Holland
Lefebvre-Schultz-Berger

That's without re-signing Engqvist, Willsie, Masse, Fortier, Bishop or Conboy. Also assuming Palushaj makes the NHL and doesn't get claimed if sent down.

I'm assuming a vet center will be picked up and Lefebvre starts in the ECHL until Leblanc gets called up. Can't see Nattinen or Berger being demoted due to being European. Who knows though, Berger's been sitting most of the year.

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Others have mentioned that Beaulieu is a late 92 and is therefore eligible to play in the A next year. However, because of this, he's also ineligible to play for the WJC(I think). So, there's really no reason for him to be there.

...especially not to get stapled to the bench and given 0 pp time for Team Canada. Like, wtf was he there for if not to play on the PP?
plus: he's about to smash his precedent points total

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Habs have zero room in the AHL next year.

Quailer-Leblanc-Kristo
Avtsin-Bournival-Gallagher
Dumont-Nattinen-Holland
Lefebvre-Schultz-Berger

That's without re-signing Engqvist, Willsie, Masse, Fortier, Bishop or Conboy. Also assuming Palushaj makes the NHL and doesn't get claimed if sent down.

I'm assuming a vet center will be picked up and Lefebvre starts in the ECHL until Leblanc gets called up. Can't see Nattinen or Berger being demoted due to being European. Who knows though, Berger's been sitting most of the year.
Leblanc will make the Habs at wing next year, I suspect.

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Leblanc will make the Habs at wing next year, I suspect.
It all depends what happens in the off season. I don't know if there will be space for him on the wings on the top 3 lines. You have to figure that we'll still have Cole, Patches, Gionta, Bourque. I guess we'll see what will happen with Kostitsyn, Gomez and Moen.

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I suppose it's possible but the historically the Habs have their prospects play 2 years of junior after being drafted. I realize Beaulieu is playing very well but I can see management seeing value in having him dominate in the Q and play World Juniors again.
As others have said, it's about the birthyear when talking about CHL draft picks. Take a look at Mathieu Carle, Matt D'Agostini, Mathieu Aubin, etc... these guys were late B days when drafted, played one more year in the Q and then the following year they turned pro.

Since Beaulieu turns 20 before Jan 1st, that means he is eligible to play in the AHL next year, so one would think that management would prefer to have him in the AHL then the Q as a 20 year old. And he is not eligible to play in the WJC's next year, he will be 20 before the tournament starts.

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Habs have zero room in the AHL next year.

Quailer-Leblanc-Kristo
Avtsin-Bournival-Gallagher
Dumont-Nattinen-Holland
Lefebvre-Schultz-Berger

That's without re-signing Engqvist, Willsie, Masse, Fortier, Bishop or Conboy. Also assuming Palushaj makes the NHL and doesn't get claimed if sent down.

I'm assuming a vet center will be picked up and Lefebvre starts in the ECHL until Leblanc gets called up. Can't see Nattinen or Berger being demoted due to being European. Who knows though, Berger's been sitting most of the year.
Leblanc has been on the wing all year in Hamilton, so I don't think he'll be used at center going forward but that's just a guess on my part. Lefebvre and Berger should be in the ECHL now so going there next year makes sense depending on how the roster shapes up. Berger when he plays has really struggled so I don't see any reason why they wouldn't send him to the ECHL next year if there's no room.

I assume Willsie is gone for sure, he's been more of a bust signing imo. Bishop has had numerous injuries at the same time, not sure if he will be back or not, even if so he can go to the ECHL as well if need be. Engqvist and Palushaj have to clear waivers so we might not see them in Hamilton again after this year.

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Leblanc will make the Habs at wing next year, I suspect.
I could see it depending on what direction this team heads towards.

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When a top-six-type Dog comes up to the Habs, do you think it's better to follow a "hierarchy" development where he gets 4th line shifts and maybe rises up; or to drop him right into the top six??


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When a top-six-type Dog comes up to the Habs, do you think its better to follow a "hierarchy" development where he gets 4th line shifts and maybe rises up; or to drop him right into the top six??
I kind of thing it depends on the situation. If he's stuck on a third line with Eller and Kostitsyn, I see no problem with putting him there. But it makes no sense putting a player like Leblanc or Palushaj on a line with Darche and Blunden.

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They ran into a hot goaltender, and terrible reffing. LE seems to have the Dogs number, they don't seem to play well against them and that was with LE having both their goalies out.

At least Lawson has looked better in the last 2 games as he wasn't very good in the outdoor game.


Also heard that Conboy is now listed as out for the season.
What is the issue with Conboy?

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I kind of thing it depends on the situation. If he's stuck on a third line with Eller and Kostitsyn, I see no problem with putting him there. But it makes no sense putting a player like Leblanc or Palushaj on a line with Darche and Blunden.
I like that thinking, if we need a 4th liner maybe we should bring up the Dogs best grinder instead of their "best player." And if we need a top line guy then have best Dog play on the top line, because "promoting" a roster grinder and then slotting the Dog on the 4th maybe hurts two lines.

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What is the issue with Conboy?
knee injury

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