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01-31-2012, 02:03 PM
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Bauer stick question

Is there any big difference between the supreme line and the vapor line of Bauer sticks?

If so, what are they

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01-31-2012, 02:08 PM
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Is there any big difference between the supreme line and the vapor line of Bauer sticks?

If so, what are they
Vapors are more towards snapshots and forwards, and supremes are more for defenseman and slapshots. Different kickpoints mostly.

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Is there any big difference between the supreme line and the vapor line of Bauer sticks?

If so, what are they
supreme lines have a mid kick point meaning the stick's flexing point will be around the middle of the shaft, generally good for loading power into the stick for big slappers

vapor lines have a low kick point, the stick's flexing point will be focused more on the lower portion of the shaft, intended to help with that quick/snappy shot release

do note that higher end vapor lines have the intelli-sense shot technology, it alters the stick's flex profile by adding another flex point around the middle. so it has 2 flex points

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Vapors are more towards snapshots and forwards, and supremes are more for defenseman and slapshots. Different kickpoints mostly.
Wrong. It's personal preference. That F / D crap is Bauer marketing and I must say that based on what I've seen time and time again, it's very effective.

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supreme lines have a mid kick point meaning the stick's flexing point will be around the middle of the shaft, generally good for loading power into the stick for big slappers

vapor lines have a low kick point, the stick's flexing point will be focused more on the lower portion of the shaft, intended to help with that quick/snappy shot release

do note that higher end vapor lines have the intelli-sense shot technology, it alters the stick's flex profile by adding another flex point around the middle. so it has 2 flex points
The Vapor is essentially a low-kick stick, Intelli-Sense or not.

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01-31-2012, 02:27 PM
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Vapors have rounded corners as opposed to the classic boxier feel of the Supremes


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Vapor - low kick, box shaft with rounded corners
Supreme - mid kick, concave shaft with square corners

Low kick sticks have less total deflection and store less energy yet load and unload that energy quickly. I.e. less max power but quicker release.

Mid kick sticks have greater total deflection and store more energy yet load and unload that energy slightly slower. I.e. more max power with somewhat slower release.

I've also noticed that low kick sticks tend to have higher trajectory on shots.

Personally I've always liked the low kick and love the Vapor sticks. Had a few One95's and wasn't as impressed. But still keep wanting to try them again, being a gear whoor and what not.

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I have both a Vapor X60 and a Supreme Total One. Both bought as closeouts, not that you care, but it makes me feel better.

I find that what Bauer says about them is pretty accurate. I like using my X60 when I'm playing forward as I like the low kick point for shots in close. When I'm on defense I use my Total One. When I load up a wrister from the point with my Total One it comes off like a rocket, but if I don't load it up properly the shot is pretty weak, so it is not as great in close.

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I've used the Supreme series for years as a forward. I can name tons of forwards in the NHL that use the TotalOne as well.

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I've used the Supreme series for years as a forward. I can name tons of forwards in the NHL that use the TotalOne as well.
can't really use the NHL as an example because even if their stick is painted like a total one, it may not be one in actuality. the sticks are so customized that pro stick are impossible to define as being from a certain line.

but i do agree that forwards can use the supremes easily, just like defence can use the Vapor series. its all about personal preference.

i like the supremes feel, the concavity and the tac spiral, used a couple Vapor XXXXs for a while and loved them to. i still like the One95/totalone feel bettter

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I'm not saying that you can't interchange one or the other when you are playing a particular position. I'm just saying that I agree with what Bauer says about the sticks to a degree. Although they are not hard rules that need to be followed.

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Of course, which shot are you more likely to take as a forward? As a defencemen? Bauer capitalized on this positional difference very well, and not only in sticks, but in every aspect of gear like skates and protective.

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can't really use the NHL as an example because even if their stick is painted like a total one, it may not be one in actuality. the sticks are so customized that pro stick are impossible to define as being from a certain line.
You can read the TotalOne near the blade on the shaft clear as day. Has a certain design too.

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You can read the TotalOne near the blade on the shaft clear as day. Has a certain design too.
if you read the first line of my post, you would see that they can be painted like total ones ,but they are not total ones

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Wrong. It's personal preference. That F / D crap is Bauer marketing and I must say that based on what I've seen time and time again, it's very effective.



The Vapor is essentially a low-kick stick, Intelli-Sense or not.
Uhm, no not really wrong at all. Most defenseman aren't taking a light snapshot from the point? The supremes ARE better for slapshots and I've owned 2 one95's and 2 XXX lites. The XXX are ok for slapshots but they have great release and are a solid snapshot stick. The supremes have a harder shot but it takes longer to get it off then the vapors.

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Who says all D take slapshots? You're over-generalizing here, making concrete statements when in fact there is a variance in preference. Something everyone learns not to do eventually, why not learn now.

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Who says all D take slapshots? You're over-generalizing here, making concrete statements when in fact there is a variance in preference. Something everyone learns not to do eventually, why not learn now.
Thats why I said "more". I didn't say you had to get it if your a Dman but they are aimed towards defenseman because you can generate more torque on the stick but it won't get off as quick. Where as a vapor will allow for a quick release while sacrificing velocity.

Hell,Stamkos used a one95 but alot of other forwards used vapors. Stamkos probably prefered one95's because of his onetimers. Where as Kessel would have prefered the release. you can use a one95 for forward, I'm not stopping you.

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aside from what others have mentioned regarding the kick points, for me the major difference between the two is the blade feel.

however this all changed with the totalone.. it has the blade feel of the past vapor 60.

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The APX actually has the blade feel of the Supreme series now. That's the major difference from the X:60.

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i find the apx alot stiffer than the supremes, even with the dual kick points

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The APX actually has the blade feel of the Supreme series now. That's the major difference from the X:60.
the APX is a hot stick... its lighter than the TotalOne and definately the X:60

has the intellisence multiple kickpoint, is built with more durable materials (supposedly) and definately has the TotalOne blade

its awesome...

that being said, I'm not spending $300 on a stick my Stealths are cheap these days

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I just switched from an S19/85/Iginla to a 7.0/87/Stamkos and the difference is unbelievable. The 7.0 is the best stick I've ever used, unbelievable feel for the puck, a stickhandler's dream. Now my Easton's feel like 2x4s in my hands.

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