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01-31-2012, 05:59 PM
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Can fellow Hab fans shed some light as to why this guy doesn't get the respect he deserves ? IMO he's one of our best D man. He has scored some big goals while playing the point for us this year as he did against the Bruins in Boston, but then they sit him for numerous games and then insert him in the lineup playing forward. This frustrates the living daylights out of me.

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01-31-2012, 06:02 PM
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because he's not very good at anything.

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Somebody has to take the blame and Weber is used to it.

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01-31-2012, 06:05 PM
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Jack of All Trades Master of None scenario imo.

He does alot of things, but doesn't hit, he plays offensively, his D play isn't so bad, but hes suffering due to our depth at D imo.

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01-31-2012, 06:06 PM
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Why is everyone enamored with this kid. Nice shot but has little else to offer. Lacks poise in the offensive zone, very shaky positioning, zero takeaway ability and slow to turn on his skates.

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01-31-2012, 06:09 PM
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People always assume because a player is young, he's got boatloads of potential even though he's showing very little ability to stick in the league, or has visibly limited upside.

I don't think he's in a very good spot since he's been passed over on the depth chart and some of our young guns are coming to Hamilton next year.

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He's been the one bight spot on out PP this year..........You guys have a short memory.

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01-31-2012, 06:17 PM
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He's been the one bight spot on out PP this year..........You guys have a short memory.
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Can fellow Hab fans shed some light as to why this guy doesn't get the respect he deserves ? IMO he's one of our best D man. He has scored some big goals while playing the point for us this year as he did against the Bruins in Boston, but then they sit him for numerous games and then insert him in the lineup playing forward. This frustrates the living daylights out of me.


Have you seen him play the point? When's the last time he got a shot off, or a pass, or pinched properly?

He's been one of our WORST d-men since game10. The coaching staff, most fans and the media all agree on this.

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01-31-2012, 06:18 PM
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1. Bad positioning
2. Questionable hockeyIQ at the highest level
3. Very little to know poise. Handles the puck like it's a grenade.

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01-31-2012, 06:21 PM
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1. Bad positioning
2. Questionable hockeyIQ at the highest level
3. Very little to know poise. Handles the puck like it's a grenade.
Considering his shot is a cannon, perhaps he just handles the puck like it's a cannon ball. Best shot on the team easily.

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01-31-2012, 06:24 PM
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Hes one of the worst players ive seen try to qb a power play. Loses the puck at the line a lot, shoots into the defenders legs, can't make good passes. I'm hoping its the same things as it was with streit, where his first season he was handling the puck like a grenade but then the season after got much better. But now that they brought in an older and more polished version of him in Diaz i don't know if theres room for him anymore even if he does get better.

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01-31-2012, 06:27 PM
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His start to the season was terrific, but he had a couple of iffy games. Martin reduced his ice time, benched him, played him on the wing....ad nauseum.

The kid lost some confidence and when he got the chance, played poorly - like the majority of the team.

I like the kid and think he will do well on a team where he gets the mentoring and ice time.

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01-31-2012, 06:29 PM
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He's a playoffs warrior!

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01-31-2012, 06:33 PM
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While he may never become a great D, chances are that next season (after trading him this summer for an average prospect or a 3rd)... we'll have to trade our 2nd round pick cause we'll be missing a shot on our pathetic PP...

and while Weber will play for league minimum elsewhere, the guy we'll acquire with our 2nd rounder will probably cost 3X that...

and people will come here whining, not underrstanding how we managed to let go of a D who's top 5 or top 10 (whole league) in goals scored on the PP...

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01-31-2012, 06:35 PM
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Hes one of the worst players ive seen try to qb a power play. Loses the puck at the line a lot, shoots into the defenders legs, can't make good passes. I'm hoping its the same things as it was with streit, where his first season he was handling the puck like a grenade but then the season after got much better. But now that they brought in an older and more polished version of him in Diaz i don't know if theres room for him anymore even if he does get better.
of course... thing is, hes our best PP shot on D, he should be the one being setup, not the other way around...

8th for PP goals by a D...

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01-31-2012, 06:37 PM
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He gets goals and points due to his excellent shot but his offensive awereness, passing skills and overall hockey sense have proved rather weak to this point. Martin and Cunneyworth seem to have no confidence in him at all. I still feel he should have had more of a chance to grow as a player, especially if the alternative was named Tomas Kaberle...

I'm sure a bottom feeder wouldn't mind ponying up a decent pick or prospect to see if Weber can become better with experience and confidence that could come with a fresh start elsewhere. Edmonton or Columbus maybe ? Or a swiss tag-team with NYI ?

Anyway, writing seem to be on the wall : I'd be surprised if he was still with us past draft day

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01-31-2012, 06:40 PM
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I think at this point he's looking like a future MAB. Hope he becomes a more complete player but lately he seems to have lapses in judgment and really has looked bad overall.

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I think at this point he's looking like a future MAB. Hope he becomes a more complete player but lately he seems to have lapses in judgment and really has looked bad overall.
No way, he has nowhere near the power or the accuracy MAB has.

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01-31-2012, 08:19 PM
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No way, he has nowhere near the power or the accuracy MAB has.
ahs more PP goals though.

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01-31-2012, 08:21 PM
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Another rock solid performance from our young all-star.

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01-31-2012, 08:24 PM
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Sucks but I see him getting moved and turning into a decent D somewhere else. The guy has seen management make horrible moves to get veterans ahead of him at all cost, Mara, Sopel, Campoli etc. And they send Weber to play as a forward

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01-31-2012, 08:26 PM
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Sucks but I see him getting moved and turning into a decent D somewhere else. The guy has seen management make horrible moves to get veterans ahead of him at all cost, Mara, Sopel, Campoli etc. And they send Weber to play as a forward
I don't think that's what the problem is. The habs have two rookie d-men in the lineup over him. He's done nothing to secure his spot. It has nothing to do with ensuring he's not in the lineup, he simply hasn't been good enough to recieve a regular spot.

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01-31-2012, 08:27 PM
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Weber's 23. Most of his mistakes are from lack of experience or lack of confidence. The same can be said for Eller last year, who played a much more timid game before finding his groove. As far as Weber's concerned, it's too soon to presume we're seeing the finished product when so much development could happen in a year or two. The kid's shown potential; give him limited time and see what grows. Right now he gives us defensive depth at a bargain.

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01-31-2012, 08:44 PM
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I don't think that's what the problem is. The habs have two rookie d-men in the lineup over him. He's done nothing to secure his spot. It has nothing to do with ensuring he's not in the lineup, he simply hasn't been good enough to recieve a regular spot.
Look I'm not saying he is the next best thing but give him a fair shot. 10-20 games and no yo-yoing around. Give him the ice time and let's see what he can do. It doesn't help and you can't say other wise when management goes out and acquires veterans like Campoli, Mara and Sopel. Those guys will always play over rookies. Emelin didn't have the best of starts but it took time for him to get comfortable, give these kids the time, and after a good evaluation you make up your mind on keeping him or not

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01-31-2012, 08:49 PM
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Look I'm not saying he is the next best thing but give him a fair shot. 10-20 games and no yo-yoing around. Give him the ice time and let's see what he can do. It doesn't help and you can't say other wise when management goes out and acquires veterans like Campoli, Mara and Sopel. Those guys will always play over rookies. Emelin didn't have the best of starts but it took time for him to get comfortable, give these kids the time, and after a good evaluation you make up your mind on keeping him or not
You don't get it. He was GIVEN the ice-time. He lost it. He got yo-yo'ed because he was a liability.

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