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Playoff / Playoff Contention Teams Oozing with Cap Space

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01-06-2006, 05:08 AM
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Playoff / Playoff Contention Teams Oozing with Cap Space

Minnesota - About 14 million - About 38 million at trade deadline
San Jose - About 8 million - About 22 million at trade deadline
Carolina - About 11 million - About 30 million at trade deadline
Nashville - About 9 million - About 24 million at trade deadline
Buffalo - About 10 million - About 27 million at trade deadline

What other "major players" are there?

And with the massive endowments of these "major players" now being known, what likely suitors are going to be matched up?

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Minnesota will not have $38 million in cap space at the deadline. That implies that up to the deadline, they'll have spent $1 million all year long on player salaries. The numbers for the other teams fall apart similarly.

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Minnesota will not have $38 million in cap space at the deadline. That implies that up to the deadline, they'll have spent $1 million all year long on player salaries. The numbers for the other teams fall apart similarly.
That value means how much nominal salary they can absorb at the trade deadline.

Suppose Keith Tkachuk's annual salary is 7 mils and Doug Weight's annual salary is 5 mils. Basically Minnesota, at the trade deadline has the ability to absord the salary is 4 Tkachuks and 2 Weights. I basically calculated the salary cap room at the trade deadline so that instead of calculating the cap hit of every player, we can just fit the players' current salaries into that adjusted salary cap and see how it would fit. I expanded the salary cap by the amount it should inflate.

Sorry I didn't make it clearer.

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That value means how much nominal salary they can absorb at the trade deadline.

Suppose Keith Tkachuk's annual salary is 7 mils and Doug Weight's annual salary is 5 mils. Basically Minnesota, at the trade deadline has the ability to absord the salary is 4 Tkachuks and 2 Weights. I basically calculated the salary cap room at the trade deadline so that instead of calculating the cap hit of every player, we can just fit the players' current salaries into that adjusted salary cap and see how it would fit. I expanded the salary cap by the amount it should inflate.

Sorry I didn't make it clearer.
It was clear enough for me.

Of course, one has to keep in mind that these kinds of massive contracts (eg. 38 million) could only be absorbed if they expire at the end of the season. A team could, I guess, pick up a lot of big long term contracts, but then they'd be screwed next year.

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Minnesota - About 14 million - About 38 million at trade deadline
San Jose - About 8 million - About 22 million at trade deadline
Carolina - About 11 million - About 30 million at trade deadline
Nashville - About 9 million - About 24 million at trade deadline
Buffalo - About 10 million - About 27 million at trade deadline

What other "major players" are there?

And with the massive endowments of these "major players" now being known, what likely suitors are going to be matched up?
Edmonton doesn't have massive amounts, but a fair amount

regardless many of the teams on your list aren't going to go anywhere near cap max...these are teams that didn't carry huge payrolls in the old system, and aren't going to approach 39 Million (season averaged) in the new system either, especially if it hurts their chance at revenue sharing

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The Rangers will be about $5 mil under the cap at the end of the season assuming everything stays the same.

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Edmonton has about 7 million in cap space as of now. Maybe just as important is that they started the season 2-3 million under their self imposed budget which was based on no playoff revenue and they have sold out every game but one where they were about 200 tickets short of sold out. There is money if there are players that Lowe wants.

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I don't know if you'd count them as "contenders" (four points back of the 8th seed) but the Panthers' payroll is around $25-26 million.

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Yeah...Minnesota has a lot of 'cheap' players...Yay?

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Ottawa has between $4-5 mil in cap room.

Nashville, Buffalo and Carolina are just under the Revenue Sharing cap and are unlikely to exceed that amount.

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As noted, just because the NHL is operating under a capped environment does not mean that virtually all teams are going to spend $39 million on the nose each year. Teams have cap space, and the ability to add quite a bit of salary... but they entered the season this far under the cap for a sound reason, and that's namely the budget under which these teams are operating. The payroll limit is considerably less than $39M for many teams, including a number in playoff contention.

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Ottawa has between $4-5 mil in cap room.

Nashville, Buffalo and Carolina are just under the Revenue Sharing cap and are unlikely to exceed that amount.
With all the injuries, and most of Walker and Legwand's salary off the books so far this season, Nashville has a bit to work with, and the plan was always, we were told, to leave enough room for a Sullivan-type deal when needed.

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With all the injuries, and most of Walker and Legwand's salary off the books so far this season, Nashville has a bit to work with, and the plan was always, we were told, to leave enough room for a Sullivan-type deal when needed.
I don't think the injury provision will help teams for the revenue sharing threshold at all (it barely, if at all, helps teams at the cap). Injured player salaries still count, but your allowed to exceed the cap to replace them. In fact, those injuries only hurt since you have to pay a replacement as well.

I can see Nashville picking up a guy like Sullivan, adding $3-400k is probably doable. A guy like Doug Weight at at least $1.2 mil is quite possibly pushing it.

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I don't think the injury provision will help teams for the revenue sharing threshold at all (it barely, if at all, helps teams at the cap). Injured player salaries still count, but your allowed to exceed the cap to replace them. In fact, those injuries only hurt since you have to pay a replacement as well.

I can see Nashville picking up a guy like Sullivan, adding $3-400k is probably doable. A guy like Doug Weight at at least $1.2 mil is quite possibly pushing it.
Well, I guess we have to wait and see. The 28.6 number is, as I understand it, the threshold for the MAX of revenue sharing.

Honestly, though, I'm happy with the team we have now, especially once Legwand returns, and I'd be happy with a small pick-up to center the second line(a Brian Rolston type player), especially with the cap going up next year and Poile intending to increase proportionally.

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Edmonton has about 7 million in cap space as of now. Maybe just as important is that they started the season 2-3 million under their self imposed budget which was based on no playoff revenue and they have sold out every game but one where they were about 200 tickets short of sold out. There is money if there are players that Lowe wants.
I'd be very surprised if Lowe doesn't make a semi-major move during the rest of the season. Picking up a depth defenseman, some elite scoring touch, and (of course) a #1 goaltender would definitely be his priorities, IMO.

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I figure Doug Weight will be the big priced soon to be UFA to be delt at the deadline. I have a wierd feeling a team like Edmonton, Vancouver or Calgary will go for him.

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Yeah...Minnesota has a lot of 'cheap' players...Yay?
Wild have allot of pending UFAs (2 goalies, Kuba and lots of forwards), they better sign a couple before the end of the year. Which will eat allot of the cap space.

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Wild have allot of pending UFAs (2 goalies, Kuba and lots of forwards), they better sign a couple before the end of the year. Which will eat allot of the cap space.
Some space, I don't think a lot. The team won't give anyone a huge raise.

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Wild have allot of pending UFAs (2 goalies, Kuba and lots of forwards), they better sign a couple before the end of the year. Which will eat allot of the cap space.
Fernandez/Roloson gone, add in a cheap backup in Harding...

Out of the free agents we have, we have 9 unrestricted free agents:

Marc Choiunard - A raise but probably not even a million, he's a specialist...

Alexander Daigle - Cut

Fernandez - Cut/resigned

Kuba - Around 2 million...

Mitchell - Trade

Robitaille - Cut

Roloson - Cut/resigned

Zyuzin - Gone

Wanvig - Marginal raise

We got some nice prospects coming through and Minnesota always finds a way to throw bodies on defense and make them look half good

Then we got RFAs:


Derek Boogard, (II) - Resign for minimum, enforcer
Pierre-Marc Bouchard, (II)- Will command a major payraise
Brent Burns, (II)- Not there yet but will have a raise
Pascal Dupuis, (II)- I can see him traded
Kurtis Foster, (II)- Another raise but not to a million
Matt Foy, (II) - Marginal raise
Marian Gaborik, (II) - Probably around 3-4 million, not Kovalchuk or Nash money
Josh Harding, (II) - Payraise around a 1 million, maybe a bit more but cheaper than Fernandez or Roloson
Chris Heid, (II) - Cut
Alex Henry, (II) - Marginal raise
Mikko Koivu, (II) - Raise
Eric Reitz, (II)- Sadly, cut
Nick Schultz, (II) - Traded
Ryan Stokes, (II) - Marginal raise
Daniel Tjarnqvist, (II)- Cut

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