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01-18-2012, 07:24 PM
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Yeah, I don't think Boedker is playing scared at all.
This year. My point was his aggressiveness has just started to show after being too timid for too long so he wouldn't get demoted, thus hurting his development.

But again, none of that matters until/unless we get an owner.

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01-18-2012, 08:55 PM
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We need to upgrade on Langkow. He just isn't the same player that we saw in October.
There's probably a reason for that...

Cut him some slack.

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01-31-2012, 11:29 AM
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On re-entry waivers today.

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01-31-2012, 12:23 PM
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On re-entry waivers today.
MAP > COR

This must be a money saving measure.

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01-31-2012, 01:50 PM
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Couldnt believe at first they were really sending COR 1M$ contract in the minors... I think now they just hope someone claims him and if not they are going to keep him with the big club to save some dollars since other options like MAP, POS, McLean, Miele are on 2 way contracts and way less expensive while in the minors.

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02-01-2012, 11:06 AM
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According to Dreger, the Penguins took him on re-entry.

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02-01-2012, 11:13 AM
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And so ends the grand experiment.

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02-01-2012, 11:40 AM
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I think its time to reconsider just how good a GM we have in GMDM. I see Mueller playing well, Wheeler playing well, Turris playing very well and we have nothing much to show for it.

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02-01-2012, 12:26 PM
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And so ends the grand experiment.
Meh, nets out to a 4th rounder surrendered for Brule. Not in the same transaction but Brule seems to fit better and made COR redundant.

You can't win 'em all.


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02-01-2012, 12:42 PM
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I think its time to reconsider just how good a GM we have in GMDM. I see Mueller playing well, Wheeler playing well, Turris playing very well and we have nothing much to show for it.
The Don can't be held accountable for circumstances beyond his control.

You can tie all three of those mal-contents (or at least the reasons behind their attitudes) to the teams financial difficulties and Maloney runs hockey ops.

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02-01-2012, 12:42 PM
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I think its time to reconsider just how good a GM we have in GMDM. I see Mueller playing well, Wheeler playing well, Turris playing very well and we have nothing much to show for it.
Note that in all 3 of those players situations Maloney's hands were somewhat tied.

1) Mueller was dogging it and had quit on the team, there was a market for him but not as good as if he'd played his heart out while waiting for a trade. Wolski didn't look like the gamble at the time that he turned out to be. I would definitely consider this a bad trade, but what other options were available?

2) Wheeler was not signed, only drafted, and wanted to become a free agent to select where he wanted to play. Maloney could have offered him the rookie max and he still would not have taken it, there's nothing he can do there other than try to trade his rights...which he should have but may have been unable to?

3) Turris was similar to Mueller although more unproven. If Turris hadn't forced Maloney's hand, and if he had played like he wanted to get traded somewhere good, then the return would have likely been better. That said, Runblad is young enough I don't think you can judge this trade for another 2-3 seasons.

It's easy to mention these moves, but don't forget the smart moves:

- signing Smith and trading Bryz when it was clear he wouldn't re-sign
- signed Schlemko, Aucoin, Pyatt, Whitney, Miele as a free agent
- traded K Adams for Vrbata (v1.0)
- signed prospects like Hanzal, Turris, Mueller, Boedker, OEL, etc.
- re-signed guy like Yandle and Hanzal to long term contracts
- traded Carcillo for Upshall
- traded Lisin for Korpikoski
- traded Uphall + Lepisto for Klesla
- traded Hale + Fedoruk for Vrbata (v2.0)
- traded M Jones for Stempniak who contributed to the playoff push

There are a number of other bad moves that could be included, but I think this team is better with Maloney than it has been at any point in Phoenix. If they had an owner I think this team would be competing for the division title nearly every year right now.

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02-01-2012, 12:46 PM
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I think its time to reconsider just how good a GM we have in GMDM. I see Mueller playing well, Wheeler playing well, Turris playing very well and we have nothing much to show for it.
I think Maloney is a great GM in a bad situation. For whatever reason, these guys just did not want to play in Phoenix. He's done well to deal these guys for assets that have some value. Maybe the more important question is why don't they want to stick around?

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02-01-2012, 02:35 PM
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I think Maloney is a great GM in a bad situation. For whatever reason, these guys just did not want to play in Phoenix. He's done well to deal these guys for assets that have some value. Maybe the more important question is why don't they want to stick around?
It's pretty simple. Maloney and Tippett do great with the vets and defense. We need some high end offensive talent and that include developing our draft picks, especially the high ones. The management we have now simply haven't gotten it done. Time to add someone or a few people to the mix to focus on this weakness in the organization.

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02-01-2012, 02:41 PM
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Yeah..not Maloney's fault on those three. It all boils down to not having an owner. If he had some decent money to work with, I feel that we would see a much better team on the ice. He's been ballin' on a budget since he came here, and still made some amazing decisions.

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02-01-2012, 09:23 PM
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Maloney's biggest mistake, in my opinion, was the Jokinen trade. Even then, he turned Jokinen into some pretty decent assets. It's not Don Maloney's fault that Turris, Wheeler and Mueller were bound and ******* determined to weasel their way out of town.

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02-01-2012, 09:45 PM
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Gormley > Jokinen, Ballard, Boynton, Lombardi, Prust

Or at least he could be. I expect him to be.

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02-01-2012, 10:26 PM
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The team needed another center when they traded for O'Reilly and Turris was holding out. Does anybody really think that 4th rounder was going to turn out better than O'Reilly would have! very remote possibility...
Brule on re-entry waivers, saving some money and giving O'Reilly a chance to play NHL hockey is what Maloney is about.

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02-11-2012, 01:27 PM
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COR with a goal....for the Jets.

Regardless of whether you think Brule is a full-time NHL'er, he's a huge >>> improvement over COR.

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02-11-2012, 01:35 PM
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Hmm, didn't see what happened so I guess he knocked it into his own net. COR has the playmaking but Brule can hit both ends of the ice and has the shot that makes him more of a fit here. Really didn't think he would fit in here, but this one of those times I like being wrong. COR just couldn't bring the intensity that Brule and Chip can put forth.

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