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View Poll Results: Who Do The Rangers Make A Run At This Summer?
Ryan Suter 9 8.11%
Zach Parise 54 48.65%
Neither 48 43.24%
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02-01-2012, 11:08 PM
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Two Things Are Obvious

The Rangers two most glaring holes are a point man for the power play and top 6 LW. The Rangers have cap room coming up this offseason. Who do you see the Rangers going after? Parise or Suter?
Would love to hear your comments.

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The Rangers two most glaring holes are a point man for the power play and top 6 LW. The Rangers have cap room coming up this offseason. Who do you see the Rangers going after? Parise or Suter?
Would love to hear your comments.
I don't know how plausible this is, but a trade for Bobby Ryan would also be a good choice.

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yea they have cap space this offseason, and half the team going to RFA the season after..... how about looking into the future and not locking up a guy to a Richards esc final contract of 7m+.

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I personally went with Parise myself. Lines of:

Parise-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Richards-Callahan
Hagelin-Anisimov-?
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

would make extremely happy.

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the kick the tires on Parise but dont get him............its a big investment. Also Suter is great but they already have a good young D. Weber makes Suter even better btw.

I still see next yr with much of the same, only changes are Feds, Wolski, Christensen walk...........replaced with one of Kreider, Miller, Thomas

Erixon in on D, Eminger walks

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I went with Parise as well. Ryan Suter is nice as hell but we should be more than fine on the back-end.

Realistically don't see how Parise fits in. Yes, you have Wolski Avery Feds are off the books and Drury buy-out cut in half this off-season season with only Pruster MDZ and Biron looking at slight raises.

Then, the following off-season you got Stepan and Mac-truck coming off their ELC's.

Those two following off-seasons after that you got Staal, Girardi, Callahan, Dubinsky, Gaborik, Lundqvist all looking at new deals. Gaborik is probably gone, but the rest should be looked at as core members (maybe you lose G as well if Parise commands a huge huge huge salary cap).

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I don't know how plausible this is, but a trade for Bobby Ryan would also be a good choice.
AA+WW(salary dump)+Bickel+2012 1st+2013 1st for Ryan and a mid tier offensive prospect

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I dont see how we could afford parise.

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The Rangers two most glaring holes are a point man for the power play and top 6 LW. The Rangers have cap room coming up this offseason. Who do you see the Rangers going after? Parise or Suter?
Would love to hear your comments.
Neither.

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I dont see how we could afford parise.
Well it's definitely doable for the cap next year...but the following summer things get a little dicey. But I still think if you have the opportunity to add a talent like Parise (assuming he is 100% healthy), and he costs you nothing but cap space, you do it. Worst case, we have to move a player or two for picks or prospects in 2013.

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I personally went with Parise myself. Lines of:

Parise-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Richards-Callahan
Hagelin-Anisimov-?
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

would make extremely happy.
How don't you play Parise with Callahan and Dubinsky in this imaginary lineup? That line would be near impossible to play against.

Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
Parise-Dubinsky-Callahan
AA-Richards-Kreider
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

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Kreider is going to have a say in all of this next season.

Also, you don't have to break the bank on Parise, plenty of cheap one year options like Doan, Smyth, and dare I say Semin (yuk) are going to be available.

I'd be really curious what Byfuglien would cost. Does he make too much? Yup. But he's one of the only players in the NHL who can play the point on the PP AND/OR screen a goalie and do both well.

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I don't know how plausible this is, but a trade for Bobby Ryan would also be a good choice.
I'd prefer Ryan over Suter or Parise.

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Contrary to popular belief, the power play personal is not the problem. It is the system. Sure another weapon on the PP wouldn't hurt but the painfully obvious problem is the set up of the PP.

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Contrary to popular belief, the power play personal is not the problem. It is the system. Sure another weapon on the PP wouldn't hurt but the painfully obvious problem is the set up of the PP.
The PP is sickening. Its gotta get fixed.

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Contrary to popular belief, the power play personal is not the problem. It is the system. Sure another weapon on the PP wouldn't hurt but the painfully obvious problem is the set up of the PP.
The biggest issue that I can see is the flimsy wrister or soft point shots we have.
We need a guy with a blast...someone who can instill fear into the dmen. This will make more room for our guys down low. Right now noone is afraid to let our dmen have the puck...because the point shots wouldn't hurt a fly. As soon as we get a guy with a slapshot I have a feeling everything else will begin to work out.

When was our powerplay the absolute best in the last 3 years?
When we had Kotalik... Del Zotto had a guy to pass to...with a HARD RIGHT HANDED slap shot.

To be perfectly frank...we don't really need a defenseman...when healthy

Staal, McD, DZ, Sauer, Eminger, Stralman, Girardi are a perfectly good reliable depth.

We could potential just make one deal to get a LWer who shoots on his off wing who has a rocket. He could man the point, which should improve our PP...

This is a list of players with known hard slap shots who are RH and are all UFAs:
-Teemu Selanne
-Jarret Stoll
-Ales Kotalik
-Pavel Kubina
-Kurtis Foster


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How don't you play Parise with Callahan and Dubinsky in this imaginary lineup? That line would be near impossible to play against.

Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
Parise-Dubinsky-Callahan
AA-Richards-Kreider
Rupp-Boyle-Prust
who knows if Prust will be back...first time as an UFA although he did thrive as a Ranger...anyone think Sather will trade for another Prust, maybe Clifford from the Kings or McGinn from the Sharks??

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Whoever thinks the PP problem is the system and not the personnel, is sadly mistaken. When was the last time we had a top 10 PP. I would think the year we won the Cup, and the PP point men were Leetch and Zubov (laser of a shot). The personnel makes any system look better, and the key on the PP is creating chances by having different options, and not the same old tactics like we have seen for years.

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Whoever thinks the PP problem is the system and not the personnel, is sadly mistaken. When was the last time we had a top 10 PP. I would think the year we won the Cup, and the PP point men were Leetch and Zubov (laser of a shot). The personnel makes any system look better, and the key on the PP is creating chances by having different options, and not the same old tactics like we have seen for years.
05-06 and 06-07 the PP was top 10.

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A big shot is needed, but the Power Play isn't even mediocre, its horrendous, not even able to gain the zone and sustain pressure at times. That's beyond just getting an additional player (though this team does need a goal scorer on the Left Wing in the absolute worst way).

Where is the movement, why isn't there someone in front screening the goaltender, wheres the crashing and banging, going for rebounds? They're always looking for the perfect shot. When your facing high end goaltenders, like Ryan Miller, thats just not good enough.

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A big shot is needed, but the Power Play isn't even mediocre, its horrendous, not even able to gain the zone and sustain pressure at times. That's beyond just getting an additional player (though this team does need a goal scorer on the Left Wing in the absolute worst way).

Where is the movement, why isn't there someone in front screening the goaltender, wheres the crashing and banging, going for rebounds? They're always looking for the perfect shot. When your facing high end goaltenders, like Ryan Miller, thats just not good enough.
I think the biggest problem with the PP is the breakout and zone entry. Once we get set up it isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but actually getting into the zone cleanly and setting up the puck movement seems like an impossible feat with this team.

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I think the biggest problem with the PP is the breakout and zone entry. Once we get set up it isn't as bad as people make it out to be, but actually getting into the zone cleanly and setting up the puck movement seems like an impossible feat with this team.
Scott Gomez?

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What is amazing about this team is that there are a few major issues with it and yet it is still currently first overall. Imagine how good it could be once these players improve.... i cant remember seeing a team a top the standings at this point of the year with soooo much room for improvement! There is a lot to look forward too with this group

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Who would I go after? Parise. I don't think we'll be in legitimate bidding for either one.

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Neither.

The Rangers need to maintain cap flexibility to re-sign their own RFAs going forward and keeping this team together.

CBA expires September 15. The cap may very well go down. You can't handcuff yourself this summer with a 7+ year contract with a 7M+ cap hit to Parise.

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