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02-02-2012, 12:49 PM
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Habs PK on pace for best PK of all time!

I couldn't believe this when I was looking up PK and PP percentages and whatnot for the season and others. The current record for PK efficiency is 89.25% held by the 99-00 Dallas Stars.

We're currently clipping along at 89.6% The Devils interestingly are at 89.4% which would also beat the all time record also if their pace is kept up.

In the season of fail (especially PP fail) it's good to see a sign like this.

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02-02-2012, 12:57 PM
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Well something to be proud of at least. Makes me believe that our strength over the last few years - team defense, hasn't fully disappeared.

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But can they match the record setting Maple Leafs?

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But can they match the record setting Maple Leafs?
I doubt it Killing 17 straight in a month and still being buried in 29th place overall.

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Too bad our PP is so bad, if it was even middle of the pack I am convinced they would be in the top 8. So many 1 goal games they have lost and others where they outplayed the opposition but lost and one more PP goal would have sealed the deal.

Anyways it is still something to be proud of I guess, they are elite at something.

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1- you had to jinx it, didn't you?

2- I doubt we will keep it up if we trade players like Gill, Moen and Darche.

3- we hope we're going to start getting hurt there, will help us tank

4- seriously, you had to jinx it?

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Goes to show that this team is much better than where it is in the standings

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Too bad our PP is so bad, if it was even middle of the pack I am convinced they would be in the top 8. So many 1 goal games they have lost and others where they outplayed the opposition but lost and one more PP goal would have sealed the deal.

Anyways it is still something to be proud of I guess, they are elite at something.
I know what you mean, seems like this season there have been a lot of:

- Losses by 1 goal
- Losses by 2 goals (including empty net)
- Losses in OT
- Losses in SO

Add up all the points lost there and you have a better reflection of where the team could be. Not saying they don't deserve to be 14th right now, because they do, but I don't think this team is really that bad. Minor tweaks and hopefully a better 2012-2013!

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Too bad our PP is so bad, if it was even middle of the pack I am convinced they would be in the top 8. So many 1 goal games they have lost and others where they outplayed the opposition but lost and one more PP goal would have sealed the deal.
So true. It's gotten to the point where I just deflate even if they do get a PP opportunity. They're way too static....are poor at gaining the zone....don't move the puck around nearly enough. It's just brutal.

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We also have given up the fewest shots per 60min of any team in the league, by a fair amount. It's a shame this is probably the last year we'll see Gill on the PK. However, I think Subban is an underrated PK'er (among other underrated parts of his game).

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1- you had to jinx it, didn't you?

2- I doubt we will keep it up if we trade players like Gill, Moen and Darche.

3- we hope we're going to start getting hurt there, will help us tank

4- seriously, you had to jinx it?
Haha I thought of this as I was posting it but meh I was just so surprised that it was on pace for best all-time I thought I'd try to post something a little sunny.

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1- you had to jinx it, didn't you?

2- I doubt we will keep it up if we trade players like Gill, Moen and Darche.

3- we hope we're going to start getting hurt there, will help us tank

4- seriously, you had to jinx it?
Barring some miraculous turnaround (which is doubtful), we'll certainly lose Moen and Gill. Gill is a massive part of our status, I believe. In addition, Plekanec's name has been tossed around, so our PK will be under the assault of the NHL trade market.

But we'll still have Price!

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The good stats starts and ends with Price, frankly. He's our PK.

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The good stats starts and ends with Price, frankly. He's our PK.
How do you explain the league best shots against at 4v5, then? The Habs' save % 4v5 is 7th in the league, good but not great.

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The good stats starts and ends with Price, frankly. He's our PK.
So true, the habs are a dreadfull 87% on the PK when Budaj plays... 3 goals against in 23 chances.

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How do you explain the league best shots against at 4v5, then? The Habs' save % 4v5 is 7th in the league, good but not great.
I think Price help our whole system, he makes our D more confident and so forth. It's easy for the guys in front of him to make the right moves.

There's also Gill who is solid at 5 on 3 and 4 on 3 doing the octo*****.

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I think Price help our whole system, he makes our D more confident and so forth. It's easy for the guys in front of him to make the right moves.

There's also Gill who is solid at 5 on 3 and 4 on 3 doing the octo*****.
Ha!

You know what, that does bring up an interesting point. I wonder, to what point does Price's puckhandling contribute?

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With a 20% PP, we would be fifth in goal differential and probably in a playoff spot. Instead, we're close to a Top 5 draft pick.

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The PP will lose some steam when Gill and Moen are traded (its coming), so I don't see a record in our future.

That said, the fact that those guys are #1 and #4 in ice time for the best PK in not just the NHL this year, but one thats on pace to be the best ever, should raise their trade value

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How do you explain the league best shots against at 4v5, then? The Habs' save % 4v5 is 7th in the league, good but not great.
While I don't agree it's all Price (Plekanec, Subban, Gorges, and Gill are great on the PK), Price's strength of reducing rebounds helps the shots against and his strength of puck handling reduces the opponent's ability to dump the puck in and set up.

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Too bad our PP is so bad, if it was even middle of the pack I am convinced they would be in the top 8. So many 1 goal games they have lost and others where they outplayed the opposition but lost and one more PP goal would have sealed the deal.

Anyways it is still something to be proud of I guess, they are elite at something.
There is little doubt about that in my mind. To me, the PP is the #1 reason the team is where it's at.

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With a 20% PP, we would be fifth in goal differential and probably in a playoff spot. Instead, we're close to a Top 5 draft pick.
Screw that -- with our current goal differential, we should be in the freaking playoffs as it is, bad PP, injuries and all.

The Habs' #1 problem is one of pure timing. They lose too many one-goal games.

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Screw that -- with our current goal differential, we should be in the freaking playoffs as it is, bad PP, injuries and all.

The Habs' #1 problem is one of pure timing. They lose too many one-goal games.
This is where Markov would make the difference and why his supporters are hoping he returns healthy. The guy is a game changer when he is on, plain and simple. I miss you you Andrei!

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Even with that the team sucks, so witha middle of the road Pk this team would probably be dead last in the league

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Even with that the team sucks, so witha middle of the road Pk this team would probably be dead last in the league
I wonder where we'd be with a middle of the road PK and PP. Probably the same place with more goals for and against.

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