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02-03-2012, 11:03 AM
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Pacioretty | Grigorenko | Cole
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02-03-2012, 11:07 AM
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The 2 hilited lets please package them off and Tinordi may be tall but he is far from anything spectacular on the ice. Gallagher is not all that big he is gritty but not going to be a force maybe at the AHL level but he will be a 3rd liner in the NHL. He will be another Max Laps which I could certainly do without seeing yet again.

For example here are Gallaghers stats. Another smurf yay.

Brendan Gallagher
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Born May 6 1992 -- Delta, BC
Height 5.08 -- Weight 170 -- Shoots R

Kristo:

Danny Kristo
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Born Jun 18 1990 -- Eden Prairie, MN
Height 5.11 -- Weight 180 -- Shoots R

We need some more wingers and a centre with size and by size I mean 6'3" 215+
Gallagher is no smurf dude. He is one nasty little ****er to play against.

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02-03-2012, 11:07 AM
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02-03-2012, 11:08 AM
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Aaron Palushaj as been call up

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Aaron Palushaj as been call up
Injury to Blunden, I guess.

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02-03-2012, 11:12 AM
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Injury to Blunden, I guess.
that is what i though too

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02-03-2012, 11:18 AM
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Gallagher is no smurf dude. He is one nasty little ****er to play against.
At 5'8" that is no giant I don't care how nasty he is he is a 3rd liner at best. He will be a Sean Avery type of player. Hell my 15 year old daughter is taller than he is already.

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02-03-2012, 11:26 AM
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At 5'8" that is no giant I don't care how nasty he is he is a 3rd liner at best. He will be a Sean Avery type of player. Hell my 15 year old daughter is taller than he is already.
He didn't referred to him as a "giant", so stop pulling that outa yer ass.

And he will be a provocateur. Which is fine in my book. It might distract the attention away from Subban or Emelin

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02-03-2012, 11:27 AM
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He didn't referred to him as a "giant", so stop pulling that outa yer ass.

And he will be a provocateur. Which is fine in my book. It might distract the attention away from Subban or Emelin
Marchand is no bigger than him.

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02-03-2012, 11:32 AM
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At 5'8" that is no giant I don't care how nasty he is he is a 3rd liner at best. He will be a Sean Avery type of player. Hell my 15 year old daughter is taller than he is already.
I would take a sane Sean Avery on my team any day of the week. And you must watch Gallagher play a little, if you don't enjoy his game. You sir cannot be satissfied.

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02-03-2012, 11:32 AM
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Marchand is no bigger than him.
And Marchand is surely one useless piece of crap on the Bruins, right? RIGHT?!

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02-03-2012, 11:45 AM
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Yes. With development, Grigro would become our 1st big line centre, leaving Plek into a very comfy 2nd line shutdown/PK specialist and Desharnais as a perky 3rd line center/PP specialist (plus somewhat cheap).

There is no place for Eller in that sort of lineup. He deserves to be played centre, not wingman. Better trade him for a winger to complement Grigo at first, and then with Plekanek.

What is the weakness in this argument? If I wrong, do tell.

In my mind, it would make much more sense to trade Plekanec and keep Eller.
We would have 3 young center for the next decade and a good mix of veteran/young on the wing.

Eller is Plekanec 2.0 (bigger).

I don't want to see Desharnais on the 3rd line. He needs and deserves big,strong, skilled winger. I also don't want him to play the defensive aspect of the game, which your 3rd line usually does. So far, there is not a single reason to break Desharnais's line, Pac and Cole aren't 3rd line winger.

If by a miracle we land Grigorenko,

Pac - Desharnais - Cole
AK46 - Grigorenko - Gionta
Bourque - Eller - Leblanc
Moens - Gomez - White

Gomez would probably be gone + Plekanec trade would land us something really nice (much better then Eller would) (good draft pick or good young winger that could replace Gionta eventually)

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02-03-2012, 11:54 AM
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We draft Ryan Murray. If we finish 30th I still want them to draft ryan Murphy. He's the best player available.

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02-03-2012, 11:56 AM
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We draft Ryan Murray. If we finish 30th I still want them to draft ryan Murphy. He's the best player available.
He might be, but talented defensmen isn't what we are lacking in the current pipeline.

I don't want us to become a new Edmonton, unless with Ds rather than Forwards

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02-03-2012, 12:01 PM
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Why is Mackinnon on our second line ?

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02-03-2012, 12:02 PM
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BS. Man, do you guys make this crap up or do you have serious hearing problems? He never said to pick up Brule. Bob Mackenzie mentioned Brule and Kpoitar as still on the table. Pierre said Price did not fit organizational needs: defense or big centerman. And he was right. He also pumped Carey's tires (to use Loungo's expression). He never berated Price. He acutally complimented him a lot. He just said the Hab's needs were in other directions. And he was right. It took 4 more drafts to get d-men into our system and we still don't have our big center man.

But I guess haters will hate no matter what the proof.

Here's the clip that proves it.

http://youtu.be/WLNOtoJ8vb0
why let the truth ruin a "good" argument?

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In my mind, it would make much more sense to trade Plekanec and keep Eller.
We would have 3 young center for the next decade and a good mix of veteran/young on the wing.

Eller is Plekanec 2.0 (bigger).

I don't want to see Desharnais on the 3rd line. He needs and deserves big,strong, skilled winger. I also don't want him to play the defensive aspect of the game, which your 3rd line usually does. So far, there is not a single reason to break Desharnais's line, Pac and Cole aren't 3rd line winger.

If by a miracle we land Grigorenko,

Pac - Desharnais - Cole
AK46 - Grigorenko - Gionta
Bourque - Eller - Leblanc
Moens - Gomez - White

Gomez would probably be gone + Plekanec trade would land us something really nice (much better then Eller would) (good draft pick or good young winger that could replace Gionta eventually)

So what your saying is, Trade the best number two center in the league, draft a number one centerman and make him play behind a journeyman second line center ?

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02-03-2012, 12:04 PM
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So what your saying is, Trade the best number two center in the league, draft a number one centerman and make him play behind a journeyman second line center ?
WTF ? I give up !

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02-03-2012, 12:07 PM
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I would take a sane Sean Avery on my team any day of the week. And you must watch Gallagher play a little, if you don't enjoy his game. You sir cannot be satissfied.
I am no fan of Avery sane or insane and Gallagher is the same kinda piece that Laps was and I couldn't stand him either I was happy when he got the ticket out of town. I am all for an instigator but I want one that will actually drop the mitts and back up his play with his fists along with scoring some goals. Avery seldome ever faught he played turtle more than anything. Marchand is another one in that mold I would hate to have that piece of garbage on our team. Get rid of the instigator rule and those guys are all gonna get rocked.

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02-03-2012, 12:10 PM
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WTF ? I give up !
Why? Who's better than him at being number two ? He'd be number two on any normal team (By normal i mean not pittsburgh.)

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And Marchand is surely one useless piece of crap on the Bruins, right? RIGHT?!
The Bs have the team to back Marchand up when he acts like an ass without much worry that anyone will take liberties with him who do we have for that oh right we don't.

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In my mind, it would make much more sense to trade Plekanec and keep Eller.
We would have 3 young center for the next decade and a good mix of veteran/young on the wing.

Eller is Plekanec 2.0 (bigger).

I don't want to see Desharnais on the 3rd line. He needs and deserves big,strong, skilled winger. I also don't want him to play the defensive aspect of the game, which your 3rd line usually does. So far, there is not a single reason to break Desharnais's line, Pac and Cole aren't 3rd line winger.

If by a miracle we land Grigorenko,

Pac - Desharnais - Cole
AK46 - Grigorenko - Gionta
Bourque - Eller - Leblanc
Moens - Gomez - White

Gomez would probably be gone + Plekanec trade would land us something really nice (much better then Eller would) (good draft pick or good young winger that could replace Gionta eventually)
I agree with this. Not only has Desharnais proven he's the go-to offensive center this year, but he's also getting better each game. I think a lot of people here still don't consider him one of our top players. I'd argue it's not even the points that put him up there, it's more than that. He has the drive and work ethic that sets him apart from a lot of players on this team. The way he plays, he should never be off a scoring line.

To me, Plekanec was never really top 6 material, let alone top line. He has the work rate to be in there, but talent wise, i still see him as a perfect 3rd line center. In Eller I think we already have that, so to put this team in a real position to succeed we need a top line center. I'm just not sure if we should draft one or trade for one.

All i know for sure is that we're not going to win with Plekanec as our top center. I'm pretty sure that if anyone thinks rationally about this, they'd agree, too.

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I'd rather trade for an extra first round pick.

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Some posters here have a very high opinion of Grigorenko. He's good, but not close to being on the same planet as Malkin. Not even close. Listen, Grigorenko is not even the best player in the Q right now. Nathan M. is one year younger and is already better than him, IMHO. One on one, Nathan M. has had the upper hand 2 times out of 3. In 3 meetings, Grigo has had 3 goals and 3 assists; Nathan, 6 goals and 4 assists. With a 5 goal performance in December.

Grigorenko is not Yakupov. Nail is MUCH better.

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I still think we should move Plekanec to Chicago.

To Chicago: Plekanec
To Montreal: Mark McNeil (big tough right handed center prospect), Kyle Beach (big winger with size and scoring ability and tough) and a 2012 1st.

It would give Chicago the best top 6 in hockey without losing a roster player and a very good shot at the cup. Montreal would address a couple of major prospect needs in the system and restock their prospect shelves.

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