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LA Kings interested in Nikolai Kulemin and Clarke MacArthur.

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02-03-2012, 06:56 PM
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Maybe a 3 way deal with Philadelphia, since Kings and Leafs both have deep D. Maybe 3 way with a seller like Columbus for Carter. Tampa needs D and a goalie and might give up Malone, who the Kings and Leafs might want.


Bottom line is these two teams have a bit of trouble scoring outside of their stars and are looking to upgrade their top 6, also both teams have deep - and very expensive - D. Both are pushing for the playoffs. So they make poor trading partners without a third team involved.


PHI:
JJ

TOR:
JVR

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???

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Richards is beloved in LA. Every player's offensive numbers is stinking it up on the 30th offense in the league. Zero point zero chance Richards is moved. The same goes for Dustin Brown.
Can't see the Kings dealing Richards either, but the idea that the value of a 4th and Hickey is fair for Kulemin and MacArthur is far more ludicrous than anything posted by a Leafs fan in this thread. MacArthur would be leading the Kings in goals scored and does it with less time on ice than any of the Kings big guns, and with less pp time than any of the Kings 1st and 2nd liners. Heck he has about 1/2 the pp time of Kopitar and Brown.

I have no idea if LA has interest in those 2 players but if they do the price is going to be something a lot different than Kings fans are thinking.

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Kulemin is not North South kind of player Callahan is. Call me when Kulemin starts to forecheck. Just because both players take care their own end does not mean they are similar.

I do not care if you are a Ranger fan. You are wrong. Both guys play different styles.

You would trade 1st? So what do you think you will get form Kulemin in playoffs?
He seems like a perfect fit for the playoffs to me. Big, strong, and smart. I think he'd excel. I would also give up a first, 15ish range. I'll take a good, proven player over that pick any day when they're as well rounded as Kulemin is.

I'm not going to argue on the Callahan/Kulemin thing. I'll jusy say that insinuating Kulemin lacking in forecheck is ridiculous.

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I mean yeah he plays both ends but overpay? Seriously? His quality ice time was taken away rightfully so cause he misses a lot of chances. Doubt he will ever reach 30 again. Was a fluke last year still has that two way ability. Overpay?

You compared him to Callahan? That right there is flat out ****ing embarrassing. You need to get out more.

Really? lol
Agreed that 30 might have been a fluke, but this year isn't indicative of his goal scoring prowess. He's probably around a 25-25 kinda player, but those are exactly the kind of players that get overpayed for.

Go ask Shark fans if they'd give Clowe away easily.

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Kulemin is not North South kind of player Callahan is. Call me when Kulemin starts to forecheck. Just because both players take care their own end does not mean they are similar.

I do not care if you are a Ranger fan. You are wrong. Both guys play different styles.

You would trade 1st? So what do you think you will get form Kulemin in playoffs?
This is crazy.

Who do you think causes all the turnovers that Grabovski and MacArthur benefit from?


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Compare to Callahan? lol.. Kulemin does not even know how to spell forecheck comparing to this guy..

Have you seen Callahan forecheck?
Where did I compare their forechecking ability?

Don't twist my words.

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Maybe a 3 way deal with Philadelphia, since Kings and Leafs both have deep D. Maybe 3 way with a seller like Columbus for Carter. Tampa needs D and a goalie and might give up Malone, who the Kings and Leafs might want.


Bottom line is these two teams have a bit of trouble scoring outside of their stars and are looking to upgrade their top 6, also both teams have deep - and very expensive - D. Both are pushing for the playoffs. So they make poor trading partners without a third team involved.


PHI:
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TOR:
JVR

LAK:
Kulemin+


???
this might work....but would LA trade Jack?

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He seems like a perfect fit for the playoffs to me. Big, strong, and smart. I think he'd excel. I would also give up a first, 15ish range. I'll take a good, proven player over that pick any day when they're as eell rounded as Kulemin is.

I'm not going to argue on the Callahan/Kulemin thing. I'll jusy say that insinuating Kulemin lacking in forecheck is ridiculous.
Most intelligent hockey fans would.

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02-03-2012, 07:00 PM
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forechecking/backchecking is the only things Kulemin has done well constantly this year.

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Compare to Callahan? lol.. Kulemin does not even know how to spell forecheck comparing to this guy..

Have you seen Callahan forecheck?
Yeah I have, you obviously haven't seen Kulemin though. Its not like Callahan is in a whole different league then him, they're both great fore checkers.

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Kulemin is not North South kind of player Callahan is. Call me when Kulemin starts to forecheck. Just because both players take care their own end does not mean they are similar.

I do not care if you are a Ranger fan. You are wrong. Both guys play different styles.

You would trade 1st? So what do you think you will get form Kulemin in playoffs?
WTF?

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He seems like a perfect fit for the playoffs to me. Big, strong, and smart. I think he'd excel. I would also give up a first, 15ish range. I'll take a good, proven player over that pick any day when they're as eell rounded as Kulemin is.

I'm not going to argue on the Callahan/Kulemin thing. I'll jusy say that insinuating Kulemin lacking in forecheck is ridiculous.
There is a difference when one guy skates throws a hit and takes teh puck away and another uses his skill trying to pull Pavel Datsyuk. Unsuccessfully.

On Flyers team only Schenn will be able to do what Callahan does on regular basis. I bet Schenn will be even better. A lot of guys "forecheck" but who gets the job done? I'd think twice before comparing any player to Callahan North South game.

Hartnell for instance. He forechecks but he is not even in the same universe when it comes to someone like Calahan.

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Just because Callahan is a better fore-checker than Kulemin doesn't mean Kulemin can't fore-check lol.

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Maybe a 3 way deal with Philadelphia, since Kings and Leafs both have deep D. Maybe 3 way with a seller like Columbus for Carter. Tampa needs D and a goalie and might give up Malone, who the Kings and Leafs might want.


Bottom line is these two teams have a bit of trouble scoring outside of their stars and are looking to upgrade their top 6, also both teams have deep - and very expensive - D. Both are pushing for the playoffs. So they make poor trading partners without a third team involved.


PHI:
JJ

TOR:
JVR

LAK:
Kulemin+


???
Cut Toronto out of it and we would make the trade for JVR straight up.

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Can't see the Kings dealing Richards either, but the idea that the value of a 4th and Hickey is fair for Kulemin and MacArthur is far more ludicrous than anything posted by a Leafs fan in this thread. MacArthur would be leading the Kings in goals scored and does it with less time on ice than any of the Kings big guns, and with less pp time than any of the Kings 1st and 2nd liners. Heck he has about 1/2 the pp time of Kopitar and Brown.

I have no idea if LA has interest in those 2 players but if they do the price is going to be something a lot different than Kings fans are thinking.
He wouldn't be if he had started the season with this team. It's a two way street. The deal can be a lot different than Leaf fans are thinking. Both Burke and Lombardi are very stingy traders. I highly doubt anything comes of this rumor, there is no sense in butting heads over players, it was a simple inquiry. 'Hey, is this player available and what are you looking for? Oh, okay, well let me shop around and get back to you'. That's all.

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There is a difference when one guy skates throws a hit and takes teh puck away and another uses his skill trying to pull Pavel Datsyuk.

On Flyers team only Schenn will be able to do what Callahan does on regular basis. IWit I bet Schenn will be even better. A lot of guys "forecheck" but who gets the job done?
Kulie gets the job done...he's one of the more tenacious forecheckers I've seen this year.

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Not interested in Kulemin being moved whatsoever.

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It's pretty simple if one of Brown or Richards aren't involved in some sort of package then I see no reason for Burke to trade both Kulemin and Mac.

Ohhh hf wannabe gms laughing lol then we'll keep kulemin and Mac simple as that.

Kings are the ones that need offense and unless we address our size/grit in top 6 it makes no sense to make any changes.

Although I could see Mac traded for a pick.

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There is a difference when one guy skates throws a hit and takes teh puck away and another uses his skill trying to pull Pavel Datsyuk. Unsuccessfully.

On Flyers team only Schenn will be able to do what Callahan does on regular basis. I bet Schenn will be even better. A lot of guys "forecheck" but who gets the job done? I'd think twice before comparing any player to Callahan North South game.

Hartnell for instance. He forechecks but he is not even in the same universe when it comes to someone like Calahan.
I didn't compare caliber.

Style and results are two separate subjects.

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Kulemin doesn't forecheck. Just learned something new today. Lmao

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I didn't compare caliber.

Style and results are two separate subjects.
Style? it's not close. I mean one guy throws 300 hits a season another.. I do not know.. 100?

I mean if you compared Ruutu and Callahan I would agree. Kulemin and Callahan, please no.

What do you say.. Ruutu vs Callahan vs Kulemin? Kulemin caliber does not belong. Right?

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Kulemin forechecking is the reason our second line scores 50% of their goals. Not sure if this monkey guy is watching the right channel.

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Kulemin forechecking is the reason our second line scores 50% of their goals. Not sure if this monkey guy is watching the right channel.
He's not watching at all. He's one of those guys who can tell everything about a player by looking at their stat sheet on nhl.com.

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Style? it's not close. I mean one guy throws 300 hits a season another.. I do not know.. 100?

I mean if you compared Ruutu and Callahan I would agree. Kulemin and Callahan, please no.

What do you say.. Ruutu vs Callahan vs Kulemin? Kulemin caliber does not belong. Right?
Kulemin is just as good as Ruutu.

Do you understand what the word "style" means, or the context it's being used in? Did I ever compare hitting prowess? Both are well rounded, extremely heady players. Don't see how that is difficult to comprehend.

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Maybe a 3 way deal with Philadelphia, since Kings and Leafs both have deep D. Maybe 3 way with a seller like Columbus for Carter. Tampa needs D and a goalie and might give up Malone, who the Kings and Leafs might want.


Bottom line is these two teams have a bit of trouble scoring outside of their stars and are looking to upgrade their top 6, also both teams have deep - and very expensive - D. Both are pushing for the playoffs. So they make poor trading partners without a third team involved.


PHI:
JJ

TOR:
JVR

LAK:
Kulemin+


???
Deal jus include a 2nd rounder from TOR

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Don't make it personal, folks. Last warning.

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