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02-04-2012, 02:47 PM
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what ??

they lost by 2. he gave up 1 bad goal for sure.
[some say 2, but i say 1]

this was 5-4 without goal #3
...You're seriously blaming Bob for this loss?

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02-04-2012, 02:55 PM
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...You're seriously blaming Bob for this loss?
let me try again

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No goalie is going to win this game.
what ??

they lost by 2. he gave up 1 bad goal for sure.
[some say 2, but i say 1]

this was 5-4 without goal #3.

had Bob not let in the bad goal, it would have been 5-4 with 6:29 left.

that is not un-winnable. teams do score goals in the last 6:29 of games.

THAT is what I'm saying.


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02-04-2012, 02:56 PM
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Not BOB's fault.

Gave up one or two weak goals.

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02-04-2012, 02:56 PM
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...You're seriously blaming Bob for this loss?
Remember he is unbiased!

We wont even take into consideration how Breezy only saw 8 shots in more time than Bob did (Bob saw 23 shots in 28 minutes)

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let me try again, just for you.



what ??

they lost by 2. he gave up 1 bad goal for sure.
[some say 2, but i say 1]

this was 5-4 without goal #3.

had Bob not let in the bad goal, it would have been 5-4 with 6:29 left.

that is not un-winnable. teams do score goals in the last 6:29 of games.

THAT is what I'm saying.
Goals 2 and 3 should of never happened. Honestly, it should of gone to OT.

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02-04-2012, 02:57 PM
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let me try again, just for you.



what ??

they lost by 2. he gave up 1 bad goal for sure.
[some say 2, but i say 1]

this was 5-4 without goal #3.

had Bob not let in the bad goal, it would have been 5-4 with 6:29 left.

that is not un-winnable. teams do score goals in the last 6:29 of games.

THAT is what I'm saying.
Who's to say that Bryz would've done any better? The team was horrendous. For all we know Bryz would've let up 8. Bob wasn't exactly awful, he had a lot of big stops, including on 5v3s, and PPs...things that Bryz has been bad on in his career.

The weakish goals that got past Bob aren't exactly the kind of goals Bryz has shown he routinely stops this year.

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02-04-2012, 02:59 PM
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Bob's playing time is not going to get penalized for this game. Refs let it get out of hand and that was that.
Nope, your coach said he was gonna give bryzgalov february to prove he's number 1 or the team will give bob number 1 duties the rest of season and playoffs.


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02-04-2012, 02:59 PM
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The shot hit him up high. Nothing he could do about the rebound direction. And he made a very clear attempt to get over for the rebound, he just couldn't recover quick enough because he had gone down for the 1st shot.
wrong, just watched it again.
goal #3, with 1 second left in the 1st period was the result of a weak point shot, Bob saved it with his left leg pad - on the ice, instead of simply directing it into the corner with stick or pad, he coughed up the rebound to a Devil. He never attempted to get up, slid a bit to his left, and got beat top side.

awful rebound on a shot on the ice, brutal goal. his only mistake in my view - others say he gave up 2 weak goals, but not me.

without that goal, it's a 1 goal game with 6 minutes left.
bottom line; his team did not play for 45 minutes, so this loss is on them.


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02-04-2012, 03:04 PM
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Nope, your coach said he was gonna give bryzgalov february to prove he's number 1 or the team will give bob number 1 duties the rest of season and playoffs.
Proof?

That sounds like an extremely un-Lavi thing to do.

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Who's to say that Bryz would've done any better?
Bryz ? I'm talking about Bob. don't change the subject.

he coughed up 1 bad goal. the rest of the team sucked, but Bob gave up 1 bad one.

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Gave up one or two weak goals.
even that guy is saying possibly 2 bad goals, not me. would have been 5-4, with a better chance for a win without that bad goal.

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Bryz ? I'm talking about Bob. don't change the subject.

he coughed up 1 bad goal. the rest of the team sucked, but Bob gave up 1 bad one.



even that guy is saying possibly 2 bad goals, not me. would have been 5-4, with a better chance for a win without that bad goal.
You say we lost because of Bob letting in weak goals. The only alternative to fix that would have been starting Bryz.

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We wont even take into consideration how Breezy ...
i'm not commenting on Bryz at all. he's got nothing do with how Bob played today. which was over all, very good.

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i'm not commenting on Bryz at all. he's got nothing do with how Bob played today. which was over all, very good.
OK. So...what is it? First you say that the loss is largely on Bob's weak goals.

Now it isn't?

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02-04-2012, 03:09 PM
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What the hell are you talking about? You say we lost because of Bob letting in weak goals. The only alternative to fix that would have been starting Bryz.
let me try a 3rd time

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No goalie is going to win this game.
what ??

they lost by 2. he gave up 1 bad goal for sure.
[some say 2, but i say 1]

this was 5-4 without goal #3.

had Bob not let in the bad goal, it would have been 5-4 with 6:29 left.

that is not un-winnable. teams do score goals in the last 6:29 of games.

THAT is what I'm saying. They WOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER CHANCE HAD BOB NOT GIVEN UP THE BAD GOAL
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bottom line; his team did not play for 45 minutes, so this loss is on them.


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02-04-2012, 03:13 PM
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OK. Let's review what you've said.

You said that Bob costed the team the game by letting in weak goals. Considering your extremely obvious pro-Bryz agenda, the only possible conclusion to be drawn from this statement is that they should've started Bryz. I mean...it's the only damned alternative. The only thing that possibly could have changed in goal. What else is anyone else supposed to assume?

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02-04-2012, 03:15 PM
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OK. Let's review what you've said.
You said that Bob ....
No, I did not ..... QUOTE me .. don't make stuff up.
let me try a 4th time

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No goalie is going to win this game.
what ??

they lost by 2. he gave up 1 bad goal for sure.
[some say 2, but i say 1]

this was 5-4 without goal #3.

had Bob not let in the bad goal, it would have been 5-4 with 6:29 left.

that is not un-winnable. teams do score goals in the last 6:29 of games.

THAT is what I'm saying. They WOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER CHANCE HAD BOB NOT GIVEN UP THE BAD GOAL
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bottom line; his team did not play for 45 minutes, so this loss is on them.
I'm saying:
1. they would have had a better chance without the bad goal against.
2. the loss is on the team, not Bob


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02-04-2012, 03:21 PM
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Proof?

That sounds like an extremely un-Lavi thing to do.
Can't find it but I just read it a week ago. I found another one from 18 days ago where laviolette said he was still number 1. I know i read it because I have bryz in my pool and i was considering whether to sub in backstrom from miny for the week (subs every sunday) and I stuck with bryz because i read that headline and with 2 wins this week and a chance at one tomorrow, i was very happy with the decision.

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I give up. There's no point debating you. You're now tearing Bob for everything you defend Bryz against tooth and nail.

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I give up. There's no point debating you. You're now tearing Bob for everything you defend Bryz against tooth and nail.
I'm sorry you are feeling frustrated, but I don't know how to make it any more clear that I said the loss is not on him. I can say he let in a bad goal, and not blame him for the loss.

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They WOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER CHANCE HAD BOB NOT GIVEN UP THE BAD GOAL
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bottom line; his team did not play for 45 minutes, so this loss is on them.


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I give up. There's no point debating you. You're now tearing Bob for everything you defend Bryz against tooth and nail.
This is how every debate with him goes. He says something, you respond to it, he says something contradicting what he said before, you call him out, he goes "no, that's not what I said."

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OK. So...what is it? First you say that the loss is largely on Bob's weak goals.

Now it isn't?
lol. tables turned now..

when it was bryz the discussion was the other way round recently.

doesnt sound very unbiased to me.

but in the end this game was so out of hand early on it would have made no difference who was in net.

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Can't find it but I just read it a week ago. I found another one from 18 days ago where laviolette said he was still number 1. I know i read it because I have bryz in my pool and i was considering whether to sub in backstrom from miny for the week (subs every sunday) and I stuck with bryz because i read that headline and with 2 wins this week and a chance at one tomorrow, i was very happy with the decision.
Didn't laviolette say "we dont go by numbers?"

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I'm sorry you are feeling frustrated, but I don't know how to make it any more clear that I said the loss is not on him. I can say he let in a bad goal, and not blame him for the loss.
thats exactly what you said beef COULDNT say earlier in the weak when bryz let in 1goal in a loss.

you cant have it both ways and be unbiased

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when it was bryz the discussion was the other way round recently.
and it was determined that even though Bryz gave up what some thought was a bad goal in a 1-0 game, they were not blaming him for the loss.

I stand by what I said: against NJ they would have had a better chance without the bad goal against & that the loss is on the team, not Bob.

Just the way that the WPG loss was on the team, not Bryz.

apples to apples.

I said Bryz wasn't to blame vs WPG, and I also said Bob wasn't to blame vs NJ.


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thats exactly what you said beef COULDNT say earlier in the weak when bryz let in 1goal in a loss.
you are incorrect: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=941

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you say you blame him for this lone goal, but not the loss ... ok, my apologies.
after discussing it, we established that you CAN blame a goalie for a bad goal, and NOT blame him for the loss, even in a 1 goal game. that's where it was left. and that's the criteria i used today, in blaming Bob for 1 bad goal against, but not blaming him for the loss

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