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02-07-2012, 11:11 PM
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Not to rain on the parade but the goal notwithstanding, the 2nd line was still absolutely hideous most of the game. Zero sustained pressure most of the time, consistent turnovers entering the zone, and dump and no puck recovery in the offensive zone.
wow 21 posts into the PGT before a negative post. might be a record

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02-07-2012, 11:35 PM
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Am I the only one that was impressed with Tampa's arena? Very clear to see the players and puck, I enjoyed the views as well.
That view they give you on the powerplay is ****ing awesome.


Like the above the defending teams net with a whole view of the zone. You get such a great feel for everything going on in front of the net and the vision.

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What was different about the Carolina game?

Ward stood on his head and made some unbelievable stops, if the Kings FINISHED those chances, they win.

They did that tonight, they won.

The effort and gameplan in all 3 games was the same, the difference was, Halak, and Ward, and that's about it.
They played on the perimeter in the Carolina game. They could have had many more scoring chances, but they chose to avoid the slot. Outside of Kopitar's goal, they didn't go near the place. I disagree that the effort was the same. They were coasting for large parts of that game.

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That view they give you on the powerplay is ****ing awesome.


Like the above the defending teams net with a whole view of the zone. You get such a great feel for everything going on in front of the net and the vision.
I think its the NBC Sports telecast. Didn't really notice, but it reminds me of our telecasts when the play is in the near boards everything is obstructed. You'd have to read player's body language and which direction the camera is going to know who won the puck battle.

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After tonight's games:

89 points gets the Kings into the playoffs as #8 seed (27 more points in 28 games, 13-14-1 record, .482 percentage)

Current pace: 94 points, #7 seed (matching up against Detroit in first round).

Sutter Points Percentage: 11-4-6 == .667. On that pace, the Kings finish with 99 points... tied for 6th with Chicago but losing the non-SO-wins tiebreaker.

To win the Pacific, the Kings need 106 points. That's 44 more points in 28 games -- a record of 22-6, and a percentage of .786.

IF you assume a three-game-regulation sweep against the Sharks in their remaining head-to-head matchups, then the Kings need a .660 pace in the other 25 games (16-8-1) to stay within reach.

(Oh, and the requirements to move up to #5 are the same as to win the Pacific, not assuming the sweep)

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Did anyone else love Quicks terrible attempt at the empty net? lol

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Seems like the Kings usually play well in Tampa Bay.

I'm happy with the win, but I'm still very discouraged by our 2nd and 3rd lines. This team needs a bit of a re-loading in the off season (we need 2 scoring wingers, a quality bottom 6 winger, resign Fraser/Mitchell, hopefully Holloway/King/Nolan replace Richardson/Lewis/Hunter)

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penner played like ****, but had a goal and some chances, if he plays like **** and scores ever other game i guess im happy.. atleast he gets a goal.

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That was a great lock-down third period. The best part was the way we locked it down, by playing in their zone the entire period. Thought everyone played well, but Willie Mitchell stood out to me. Not an easy task to shut down St. Louis and Stamkos like that.
Agreed, we owned that third period. Literally. I think they went like 15 minutes without a shot in the third, and they were trying to pressure us. That is the most relaxed I've been with a third period lead in a long time.

Overall, I thought the game was a pretty good effort. We stunk in the first period outside of Kopi's goal, but after Stamkos tied the game we responded really well and took control of the game. And I thought this was one of the best, if not the best Penner game yet. Plus he has three goals in his last eight games, so maybe he's coming around a bit. We need it.

It was pretty obvious why our offense is so bad overall though. The PP was once again as flatfooted as a British police officer. I've had girlfriends who move more in bed than the Kings move with the man-advantage, and that's not a compliment to them. Even the few cross ice pass attempts were pretty weak and easily read. The only dangerous that got through was from Stoll to Richards and Stoll messed that up by putting it in an awkward spot for Richards.

Getting into the offensive zone was also pretty weak much of the game. We don't generate enough speed coming through the neutral zone to back off the defense and we don't dump an chase well enough to get the puck regularly.

We did generate some nuetral zone turnovers, especially in the third, and that ignited some opportunities which was good to see.

Once again, this game showed we need some size and muscle, as well as a legit goalscorer in the line up. Our goaltending and overall team defense is plenty fine, but we need help up front.

Finally, I don't think I've seen Richardson have a worse game than he did tonight. Lewis wasn't very good either, but he didn't hurt himself out there. Richardson was easily knocekd off the puck, looked lost overall and did nothing positive that I seen. Did anyone see any different? 6:30 in ice time, was he hurt or did Sutter just bench him?

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Btw, did anyone else find it odd that Martinez was dressed finally for a game against the very team he might get dealt to if those Malone trade rumours are legit? Not saying DL was showcasing him, but funny that VV gets sat for this game of all games.

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penner played like ****, but had a goal and some chances, if he plays like **** and scores ever other game i guess im happy.. atleast he gets a goal.

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Finally, I don't think I've seen Richardson have a worse game than he did tonight. Lewis wasn't very good either, but he didn't hurt himself out there. Richardson was easily knocekd off the puck, looked lost overall and did nothing positive that I seen. Did anyone see any different? 6:30 in ice time, was he hurt or did Sutter just bench him?
Not to sound too negative, but I don't think i've seen Richardson play WELL this season. All I've seen from him is speed, and that's the only thing that's keeping him in the NHL.

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It's weird how our first, second, and third place scorers are all separated by exactly 10.

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They played on the perimeter in the Carolina game. They could have had many more scoring chances, but they chose to avoid the slot. Outside of Kopitar's goal, they didn't go near the place. I disagree that the effort was the same. They were coasting for large parts of that game.
What about Richards shutty breakaway?

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penner played like ****, but had a goal and some chances, if he plays like **** and scores ever other game i guess im happy.. atleast he gets a goal.
Seems you're only seeing what you want to see.

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I dozed off during the game, woke up to Penner scoring, figured I was having a dream within a dream. If the Kings score 3 goals a game they will be tough to beat which means Lombardi needs to do his job, shuffle out the guys who aren't carrying their weight and shuffle in guys who will do what it takes to win.

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I dozed off during the game, woke up to Penner scoring, figured I was having a dream within a dream. If the Kings score 3 goals a game they will be tough to beat which means Lombardi needs to do his job, shuffle out the guys who aren't carrying their weight and shuffle in guys who will do what it takes to win.
Exactly. Kings are pretty much "unbeatable" when scoring >=3 goals. Stoll needs to be put back to center or traded. He is not a good winger and never will be.

BTW, put Penner on first line. Kopi and him had some chemistry last year before the injury. Just a thought.

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IMHO, this was the best game Penner has ever played in a Kings jersey. He could have had 2 or 3 goals. At one point, I actually saw him in a race with a Bolt for a loose puck......and he almost won!!!
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That might have been Penner's best game as a King. He was all over the ice in a good way and that was a great shot on his goal.
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Agree, I thought he was skating hard and he seemed focused on getting to the net, creating chances and challenging the D. He had some chances to get a 2nd goal, too bad he didn't.

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After tonight's games:

89 points gets the Kings into the playoffs as #8 seed (27 more points in 28 games, 13-14-1 record, .482 percentage)

Current pace: 94 points, #7 seed (matching up against Detroit in first round).

Sutter Points Percentage: 11-4-6 == .667. On that pace, the Kings finish with 99 points... tied for 6th with Chicago but losing the non-SO-wins tiebreaker.

To win the Pacific, the Kings need 106 points. That's 44 more points in 28 games -- a record of 22-6, and a percentage of .786.

IF you assume a three-game-regulation sweep against the Sharks in their remaining head-to-head matchups, then the Kings need a .660 pace in the other 25 games (16-8-1) to stay within reach.

(Oh, and the requirements to move up to #5 are the same as to win the Pacific, not assuming the sweep)
The 6th seed is probably the best we can hope for. Chicago's goaltending issues make them catchable.

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Not to sound too negative, but I don't think i've seen Richardson play WELL this season. All I've seen from him is speed, and that's the only thing that's keeping him in the NHL.
Yep, I was pretty much trying to say this as well. The fact he's been so bad this year, and then played so bad last night that I noticed it, shows ho bad he really was last night. It was awful.

If we do a major deal and he isn't shunted into it as a cap dump, I'd be mystified. The guy is wasting a roster spot big time.

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Exactly. Kings are pretty much "unbeatable" when scoring >=3 goals. Stoll needs to be put back to center or traded. He is not a good winger and never will be.

BTW, put Penner on first line. Kopi and him had some chemistry last year before the injury. Just a thought.
Considering Penner has 3 goals in his last eight games, I wouldn't move him anywhere right now. I'd replace Stoll with someone with speed and hands though. A guy like Cogliano would be a really good fit there I think.

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wow, totally didnt know there was a game yesterday until now.

Nice to see a win though

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Penner is going to be Warren Rychel-esque in this year's playoffs, book it.

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Penner is going to be Warren Rychel-esque in this year's playoffs, book it.
I want Chris Kontos-esque.

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Agreed, we owned that third period. Literally. I think they went like 15 minutes without a shot in the third, and they were trying to pressure us. That is the most relaxed I've been with a third period lead in a long time.

Overall, I thought the game was a pretty good effort. We stunk in the first period outside of Kopi's goal, but after Stamkos tied the game we responded really well and took control of the game. And I thought this was one of the best, if not the best Penner game yet. Plus he has three goals in his last eight games, so maybe he's coming around a bit. We need it.

It was pretty obvious why our offense is so bad overall though. The PP was once again as flatfooted as a British police officer. I've had girlfriends who move more in bed than the Kings move with the man-advantage, and that's not a compliment to them. Even the few cross ice pass attempts were pretty weak and easily read. The only dangerous that got through was from Stoll to Richards and Stoll messed that up by putting it in an awkward spot for Richards.

Getting into the offensive zone was also pretty weak much of the game. We don't generate enough speed coming through the neutral zone to back off the defense and we don't dump an chase well enough to get the puck regularly.

We did generate some nuetral zone turnovers, especially in the third, and that ignited some opportunities which was good to see.

Once again, this game showed we need some size and muscle, as well as a legit goalscorer in the line up. Our goaltending and overall team defense is plenty fine, but we need help up front.

Finally, I don't think I've seen Richardson have a worse game than he did tonight. Lewis wasn't very good either, but he didn't hurt himself out there. Richardson was easily knocekd off the puck, looked lost overall and did nothing positive that I seen. Did anyone see any different? 6:30 in ice time, was he hurt or did Sutter just bench him?
Wait a second.... you've had girlfriends?

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