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02-08-2012, 03:33 PM
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Fine. Keep Steps with Gaborik.

Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Richards-Callahan
Anisimov-Mitchell-Fedotenko
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Done. Just get Richards off of a line with Ruslan Fedotenko and Mike ****ing Rupp........

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02-08-2012, 03:34 PM
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I don't see the sense in breaking up Stepan/Gaborik just to try and get Richards going. Those two guys have great chemistry together. Richards needs to find chemistry with someone else on the roster, or a personnel change should be made. Not to mention it's not as if Richards has been carrying his line, or generating tons of chances that his linemates can't finish. He's been very average in his playmaking ability.
This.
Has he made some good passes that should have been converted? Yes.
Has he also made some incredible stupid passes that get intercepted, or just don't reach their target? HELL YES.
We're paying him this amount of money, he should be expected to carry a line, not have the line carry him.
Granted though, having him play with offensive black holes such as Prust, Rupp, Feds, and Mitch WILL NOT get him going.

I just want to see Hagelin on his wing. I feel like Hagelin ignites every possible line he's assigned to.

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02-08-2012, 03:42 PM
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We need to win games, not pad Richards stats. If he's not getting it done, we have others who will.

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02-08-2012, 03:46 PM
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Tortorella has talked about putting Richards in “grinding” situations to get his game back and that is what he is doing here. This isn’t all about Richards though. Brian Boyle played well between Brandon Dubinsky and Brandon Prust and Carl Hagelin, John Mitchell and Ryan Callahan were together. That only leaves one spot for Richards, and it’s a spot that he has to use as motivation to get his game back in order. It’s not permanent and it could only be for the first period or so. As of right now this is where Richards needs to play, but once he gets himself going he will be back up in a more prominent role,

As for putting him with Marian Gaborik again, there isn’t really a good reason to split up Gaborik, Derek Stepan and Artem Anisimov. That line played really well against Philly and wasn’t bad last night. Not to mention that Tortorella said that the combination of Richards and Gaborik was “ugly” when they played together to start the season. Just like how Marian Gaborik elevated his game on his own, Richards needs to do the same and hopefully he starts tomorrow.
Beautiful response by Rotter.

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02-08-2012, 03:51 PM
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I don't see the sense in breaking up Stepan/Gaborik just to try and get Richards going. Those two guys have great chemistry together. Richards needs to find chemistry with someone else on the roster, or a personnel change should be made. Not to mention it's not as if Richards has been carrying his line, or generating tons of chances that his linemates can't finish. He's been very average in his playmaking ability.
agreed.

frankly i think we need to acquire someone to help Richards.

Richards - Carter, Stepan - Gaborik that would be an effective 4 of your top 6.

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02-08-2012, 03:53 PM
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Sather: "Hey John! I just signed Brad Richards! He's coming to NY!"
Torts: "That's great, Glen. Wait 'til you see him with Mike ****ing Rupp!"

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Similar to how the Pack Line was not broken up last year to get Gaborik going, I don't think Stepan and Gaborik will be broken up in order to spark Richards.

I've been saying it for awhile and Adam Rotter posted a similar sentiment today: Richards is the only one who can help himself. He's obviously in a huge funk and it's getting to him mentally. We can sit here and complain about his linemates all we want, but in some games, Richards' linemates are outplaying him, so I don't think Richards' woes can be pinned on them.

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Similar to how the Pack Line was not broken up last year to get Gaborik going, I don't think Stepan and Gaborik will be broken up in order to spark Richards.

I've been saying it for awhile and Adam Rotter posted a similar sentiment today: Richards is the only one who can help himself. He's obviously in a huge funk and it's getting to him mentally. We can sit here and complain about his linemates all we want, but in some games, Richards' linemates are outplaying him, so I don't think Richards' woes can be pinned on them.
Stepan should be moved off the line since he is slumping badly. He's been playing awful lately.

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They have done great overall but yea Stepan, Richards, Gaborik.........then reunite the Packline...Dubi, AA, Cally ..............Hagelin, Boyle, Prust.......Rupp, Mitchell, Feds

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02-08-2012, 06:02 PM
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Richards needs to get going wherever they put him. When you sign these big contract you don't get to be bottle feed along. Produce!

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02-08-2012, 06:07 PM
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Myth. We're 13th in goals per game. You can't seriously insist that almost 2/3rds of the league is offensively challenged...
I really don't give a crap about the other 2/3rds of the league; all I know is that our team, the New York Rangers is not only offensively challenged, they are seriously flawed. Right now as we speak, we have a grand total of four(4) players with 10 goals or more after 51 games played. That is flat out pathetic and needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.

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02-08-2012, 06:30 PM
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Actually, Rangers started playing better since Gaborik and Richards were split. It is Stepan that should be a playmaker and learn to pass the puck more into open spaces.

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I honestly don't know what you do with Richards. Part of me says put him with Gaborik to try and get him going, the other half says he deserves to play with Rupp. He's been pathetic for months. He deserves a 4th line demotion.

Meanwhile, the whole team is struggling offensively. That NEEDS to be addressed soon. Like others have said the games get closer and tighter later in the season and playoffs and we need to find ways to score. The PP is beyond an eyesore. Would Zucc help that? Probably but Torts' doesn't like him.

It's almost like there's been so much attention to detail on defense and grinding it has stunted almost everyone's offensive capabilities. Hopefully it's just a team slump, but my gut tells me it's the roster or coaching.

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I'd love to see:

Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Wolski-Richards-Zuccarello
Prust - Boyle - Rupp
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I think it could help us out with scoring big time...

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02-08-2012, 07:00 PM
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I'd love to see:

Hagelin-Stepan-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Wolski-Richards-Zuccarello
Prust - Boyle - Rupp
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I think it could help us out with scoring big time...
You'd better hope that third line doesn't get stuck in their own zone.

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You'd better hope that third line doesn't get stuck in their own zone.
then maybe distribute the weak defensive players:

Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Wolski-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin-Anisimov-Zuccarello

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02-08-2012, 07:08 PM
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then maybe distribute the weak defensive players:

Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Wolski-Stepan-Callahan
Hagelin-Anisimov-Zuccarello
Yeah. Something like that could work. Although I don't see WW as someone who can help the offense as much as some of us are making it out to be here.

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Yeah. Something like that could work. Although I don't see WW as someone who can help the offense as much as some of us are making it out to be here.
If he can put 20-30 I'd be thrilled. We have two many 10-10 guys...
Our bottom six is filled with grinders. We need some offense...

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02-08-2012, 07:23 PM
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Agree with this. I think its time.

Cally - Richards - Gabby
Dubinsky - Stepan - AA
Hagalin - Boyle - Feds
Rupp - Mitchell - Prust

Though i really think this is the best time to recall Zuccs and plug him in a top 9 spot and remove Mitchell. Hagalin and Zucc looked real good together in HFD for their limited time together.

If Zucc is recalled change:

Keep First line
Dubinsky - Stepan - Feds (Replace Feds come the deadline with a top 6 RWer, Selanne please).
Hagalin - AA - Zucc
Rupp - Boyle - Prust

Three good lines that can put the puck in the net.


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Agree with this. I think its time.

Cally - Richards - Gabby
Dubinsky - Stepan - AA
Hagalin - Mitchell - Feds
Mitchell - Boyle - Prust
Double shift Mitchell? I like it. Just kidding obviously you meant Rupp

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Double shift Mitchell? I like it. Just kidding obviously you meant Rupp
Haha I caught that after an edited it, but you saw it before I had a chance to change it

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02-08-2012, 07:50 PM
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FORWARDS
Ryan Callahan / Brad Richards / Marian Gaborik
Brandon Dubinsky / Derek Stepan / John Mitchell
Carl Hagelin / Artem Anisimov / Ruslan Fedotenko
Michael Rupp / Brian Boyle / Brandon Prust

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal / Anton Stralman
Ryan McDonagh / Daniel Girardi
Michael Del Zotto / Stu Bickel

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist / Martin Biron

tort should put this line up for 1 game and test it out grid and skill on every line
hope we start playing better soon

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02-09-2012, 12:07 AM
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If you put Richards with Gaborik, Richards will be more involved because he'll have to do twice the work.

I guess it makes some sense but I'm iffy about it.

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02-10-2012, 04:09 AM
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Honestly, Torts knows this team is going into the postseason with a high seed. They have been winning consistently throughout the year. I really think he's just juggling lines right now to keep the pace going, playing the hot hand (ex. Hagelin-Mitchell-Callahan), feeling things out, and as soon as the Rangers get into a position in which they know where they are going be come playoff time (10-15 games to go), I think you'll see Torts settle on his permanent lines for the Cup run.

I agree, I'd love to see Richards and Gaborik get some time playing together again, but they need to show that they can feed off each other and be the offensive game-breakers they were signed to be. I would like to see Torts settle on these for the postseason

Dubinsky - Richards - Gaborik
Hagelin - Stepan - Callahan
Anisimov - Mitchell - Fedotenko
Rupp - Boyle - Prust

although this the ideal in my mind.

To Anaheim: picks, prospects (whatever reasonable combo works)

To New York: Selanne

Anisimov - Stepan - Gaborik
Selanne - Richards - Callahan
Dubinsky - Mitchell - Hagelin
Rupp/Fedotenko - Boyle - Prust

I don't think we're landing Bobby Ryan without giving up way too much, and Selanne would be the perfect fit.

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I don't think we're landing Bobby Ryan without giving up way too much, and Selanne would be the perfect fit.
Except that Selanne plays the right side, so those line combos wouldn't work.

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