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3 Stars and GBR: #51 @ Devils

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Artem Anisimov 1 1.85%
Derek Stepan 0 0%
Marian Gaborik 5 9.26%
Brandon Dubinsky 0 0%
Brandon Prust 3 5.56%
Brian Boyle 0 0%
Ryan Callahan 0 0%
Mike Rupp 1 1.85%
John Mitchell 0 0%
Carl Hagelin 8 14.81%
Henrik Lunqvist 25 46.30%
Ryan McDonagh 6 11.11%
Dan Girardi 1 1.85%
Michael Del Zotto 3 5.56%
Stu Bickel 1 1.85%
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02-08-2012, 08:16 PM
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I'm fine with expanding review as long as it's limited to scoring plays.

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I'm fine with expanding review as long as it's limited to scoring plays.
It wouldn't help here, penalties aren't reviewable and they'll never make them reviewable.

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02-08-2012, 08:47 PM
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It wouldn't help here, penalties aren't reviewable and they'll never make them reviewable.
Fine. Just make goalie interference reviewable, as it is probably the only penalty that can change whether or not it is a goal.

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02-08-2012, 09:13 PM
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Not sure if it was posted but Kerry Fraser believes the Gaborik goalie interference call was the wrong call.



http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=387268
Thanks for that, I basically said the same thing earlier. Glad I'm not alone lol

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02-09-2012, 02:19 AM
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And upon review, the puck crosses the line when Marty is on his back inside his own net, arguably prevented from making a play on the puck.
Exactly, there's 2 reasons why this is irrelevant given the call made on the ice.

1) There could never have been a goal in the first place, because the play is dead as soon as any Ranger touches the puck (penalty).

2) If Brodeur stays on his feet, it's a ridiculously simple save anyway.


But it's this whole "Brodeur dove" thing that is beyond outlandish. I dont see how anyone can look at that replay, (whether you think Gaborik intentionally bulldozed Brodeur or whether you think ATrain pushed Gaborik into Brodeur) and say Marty dove.

For starters, he got hit pretty hard.

But the crazier aspect of the "Brodeur dove" argument some are putting forth here is WHY THE HELL would anyone dive in that situation?

WHILE you're making a save?
IN the last 3 seconds of a tie game?
WHILE giving a rebound to the slot?

I mean, really folks?!?!

To qualify, yes, I realize it's being said by RELATIVELY FEW people here, but it's honestly one of the sillier charges I've ever seen on HFBoards.

So to summarize, it's a silly statement to make that a NHL goaltender (let alone a HOF goalie) is going to vacate his net with THREE seconds left in a tie game WITH the puck in the area, regardless of whether or not you think the call was correct or incorrect.


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02-09-2012, 06:38 AM
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Enjoy your gift-wrapped win.

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02-09-2012, 06:59 AM
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Exactly, there's 2 reasons why this is irrelevant given the call made on the ice.

1) There could never have been a goal in the first place, because the play is dead as soon as any Ranger touches the puck (penalty).

2) If Brodeur stays on his feet, it's a ridiculously simple save anyway.


But it's this whole "Brodeur dove" thing that is beyond outlandish. I dont see how anyone can look at that replay, (whether you think Gaborik intentionally bulldozed Brodeur or whether you think ATrain pushed Gaborik into Brodeur) and say Marty dove.

For starters, he got hit pretty hard.

But the crazier aspect of the "Brodeur dove" argument some are putting forth here is WHY THE HELL would anyone dive in that situation?

WHILE you're making a save?
IN the last 3 seconds of a tie game?
WHILE giving a rebound to the slot?

I mean, really folks?!?!

To qualify, yes, I realize it's being said by RELATIVELY FEW people here, but it's honestly one of the sillier charges I've ever seen on HFBoards.

So to summarize, it's a silly statement to make that a NHL goaltender (let alone a HOF goalie) is going to vacate his net with THREE seconds left in a tie game WITH the puck in the area, regardless of whether or not you think the call was correct or incorrect.

Give it up. The call was controversial.

I don't think you'll be convincing too many fans over here.

And on point #2... how can you be so sure?

There would've been a rebound and Marty might have flopped.

Or he might have just made the save; either way, you can't be so sure.

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02-09-2012, 10:45 AM
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Exactly, there's 2 reasons why this is irrelevant given the call made on the ice.

1) There could never have been a goal in the first place, because the play is dead as soon as any Ranger touches the puck (penalty).

2) If Brodeur stays on his feet, it's a ridiculously simple save anyway.


But it's this whole "Brodeur dove" thing that is beyond outlandish. I dont see how anyone can look at that replay, (whether you think Gaborik intentionally bulldozed Brodeur or whether you think ATrain pushed Gaborik into Brodeur) and say Marty dove.

For starters, he got hit pretty hard.

But the crazier aspect of the "Brodeur dove" argument some are putting forth here is WHY THE HELL would anyone dive in that situation?

WHILE you're making a save?
IN the last 3 seconds of a tie game?
WHILE giving a rebound to the slot?

I mean, really folks?!?!

To qualify, yes, I realize it's being said by RELATIVELY FEW people here, but it's honestly one of the sillier charges I've ever seen on HFBoards.

So to summarize, it's a silly statement to make that a NHL goaltender (let alone a HOF goalie) is going to vacate his net with THREE seconds left in a tie game WITH the puck in the area, regardless of whether or not you think the call was correct or incorrect.

Look we're never going to agree on this. However, you would really help your credibility if you would stop insisting that the Anisimov opportunity would be an ridiculously simple save. When an NHL forward gathers a rebound three feet in front of the net the goalie is at a big disadvantage. Marty would not have had time to square up and the only way he makes a save from that distance is if Ani hits him and there would have been tons of room on the far side. I'm not saying he would have scored but to somehow characterize that situation as an easy save is truly ridiculous.

As for Marty flopping; he's done it his whole career to his advantage and at this point it is probably unconscious. So, if he had the time to think about the situation he would not flop but that play happened so fast his instincts seem to be to go down the instant he feels contact. Did he flop? don't know but again to suggest he wouldn't shows a lack of knowledge of the player's career.

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