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02-08-2012, 12:19 PM
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Ortmeyer (Cleared)

As per Dreger.

Sounds like Koivu is back.


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02-08-2012, 12:34 PM
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So...

Johnson-Koivu-Heatley (you know Yeo's going to put Koivu with Heater)
Clutterbuck-Cullen-McMillan
Seto-Brodziak-Christensen
Powe-Peters-Kassian

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So...

Johnson-Koivu-Heatley (you know Yeo's going to put Koivu with Heater)
Clutterbuck-Cullen-McMillan
Seto-Brodziak-Christensen
Powe-Peters-Kassian

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Ugh, if Yeo goes right back to putting Koivu with Heater I am going to seriously question his ability as head coach, HBJ is just too damned effective to break up.

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Ugh, if Yeo goes right back to putting Koivu with Heater I am going to seriously question his ability as head coach, HBJ is just too damned effective to break up.
Yeh he'd be a fool. If anything run two first lines. I'd love to see what koivu can do when he's not playing against the other teams shut down line.

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Yeh he'd be a fool. If anything run two first lines. I'd love to see what koivu can do when he's not playing against the other teams shut down line.
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FYI, Koivu practiced with Heatley and Seto.

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I'd love to see this lineup:

Johnson-Brodziak-Heatley
Clutter-Koivu-EC
Seto-Cullen-McMillan
Powe-Peters-Kassian

But until Yeo breaks Koivu and Heatley up, I won't believe that he'll break Koivu and Heatley up.

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Koivu skating with Heatley and Setoguchi today at #mnwild practice. Wild starts 4-game homestand (!!) Thursday vs Canucks
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FYI, Koivu practiced with Heatley and Seto.

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I don't really see the surprise about that....I mean are they really going to put him with McMillan and Powe or something like that?

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FYI, Koivu practiced with Heatley and Seto.
That's what I was expecting after last night. Cullen's line was our best last night(on for the goal, no goal, and our other best scoring chance) while Johnson-Brodziak have played better together than apart.

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HBJ looked a little off, but the whole team sucked. Try Mikko + Seto and somebody

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Well the experiment of putting Seto on a "workers" line was predictably terrible. If Yeo wants Heatley-Koivu, okay. Try Johnson there maybe? Put Clutterguchi back with Cullen and whoever else is left in the bottom six.

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HBJ looked a little off, but the whole team sucked. Try Mikko + Seto and somebody
Hmm...board must have eaten my post from earlier...


Anyway, I don't think that HBJ was off last night, I think just B was off. Johnson still looked like he learned things from the ASG, and Heatley looked like Heatley. Brodziak just looked off. He made a few questionable decisions in the offensive zone, and just wasn't getting to the right place at the right time.

I would like to see Koivu and Heatley separated, but if they're together, I really want Johnson on their wing.

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Love how the thread topic instantly diverted to which line Koivu plays on.

What about Ortmeyer?!?

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From Scoggins via Russo's Blog: “We have to make sure with Mikko coming back, he’s such an important part of our team, that we surround him the right way,” Yeo said. “Putting him with Seto and Heater gives us a chance to get that line going and contributing. ... We need more than one line scoring right now. This time of the year, you need lines to go out and be real solid defensively. Lines that can go out against top players. But you need different lines contributing.”

Not at all surprised by this. Well ... maybe the Seto part, but not Yeo's decision to keep Mikko and Heater together. You can bet that Yeo thought this through very carefully as he knows he'll be second-guessed for breaking up the HBJ line, especially given the favorable media coverage of that line.

Maybe Yeo really does think that Koivu centering Heater and Seto gives us the best chance for success. Or maybe he made the calculation that keeping the HBJ line together would be better in the short run but a potential disaster in the long run. In other words I don't think Yeo is willing to risk alienating Mikko by dropping him down to the 2nd line with Clutter and Slugo/EC/whoever. Yeo needs Mikko more than Mikko needs Yeo.

Is this more Yeo's team or Mikko's team? Think that's open for debate. I don't think it is at all controversial to see a rookie 30something HC being deferential to the team's captain (with the long term big-bucks contract) and the guy who the front office is building the franchise around. In fact it's expected.

I think Yeo made the right decision keeping Mikko and Heater together. I'd rather see Johnson on that line instead of Slugo but don't think it will make much difference either way.

Wish Scoggins would have listed the other line combination from today's practice.

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From Scoggins via Russo's Blog: “We have to make sure with Mikko coming back, he’s such an important part of our team, that we surround him the right way,” Yeo said. “Putting him with Seto and Heater gives us a chance to get that line going and contributing. ... We need more than one line scoring right now. This time of the year, you need lines to go out and be real solid defensively. Lines that can go out against top players. But you need different lines contributing.”

Not at all surprised by this. Well ... maybe the Seto part, but not Yeo's decision to keep Mikko and Heater together. You can bet that Yeo thought this through very carefully as he knows he'll be second-guessed for breaking up the HBJ line, especially given the favorable media coverage of that line.

Maybe Yeo really does think that Koivu centering Heater and Seto gives us the best chance for success. Or maybe he made the calculation that keeping the HBJ line together would be better in the short run but a potential disaster in the long run. In other words I don't think Yeo is willing to risk alienating Mikko by dropping him down to the 2nd line with Clutter and Slugo/EC/whoever. Yeo needs Mikko more than Mikko needs Yeo.

Is this more Yeo's team or Mikko's team? Think that's open for debate. I don't think it is at all controversial to see a rookie 30something HC being deferential to the team's captain (with the long term big-bucks contract) and the guy who the front office is building the franchise around. In fact it's expected.

I think Yeo made the right decision keeping Mikko and Heater together. I'd rather see Johnson on that line instead of Slugo but don't think it will make much difference either way.

Wish Scoggins would have listed the other line combination from today's practice.
So you call Clutter-Mikko-Seto/EC the "first line" and the HBJ line the "second line." At this point I'd expect about equally as much contribution out of each of those anyway.

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I stand 100% on my claim that Johnson (not Brodziak) made that HBJ line work. Hopefully EC is on the wing, and with Brodziak rather than Cullen. Given the top line as listed, here's what I hope for the other 3 lines:

Seto-Koivu-Heater
Clutter-Cullen-McMillan
Johnson-Brodziak-EC
Powe-Peters-Kassian/Staubitz

Doesn't make a difference to me which of those middle two is the "third line."

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I stand 100% on my claim that Johnson (not Brodziak) made that HBJ line work. Hopefully EC is on the wing, and with Brodziak rather than Cullen. Given the top line as listed, here's what I hope for the other 3 lines:

Seto-Koivu-Heater
Clutter-Cullen-McMillan
Johnson-Brodziak-EC
Powe-Peters-Kassian/Staubitz

Doesn't make a difference to me which of those middle two is the "third line."
I respect your opinion as you clearly know your stuff ... so ... I'd be interested in knowing what your thought process is on McMillian with Clutter-Cullen and EC with Johnson-Brodz.

I'd prefer McMillian with Johnson-Brodz as that line could grind if need be. I like EC's skill but he looks like he's very soft.

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I respect your opinion as you clearly know your stuff ... so ... I'd be interested in knowing what your thought process is on McMillian with Clutter-Cullen and EC with Johnson-Brodz.

I'd prefer McMillian with Johnson-Brodz as that line could grind if need be. I like EC's skill but he looks like he's very soft.
I desperately want to keep Christensen off of a line with Cullen. I don't want to break up Brodziak and Johnson, and think they can continue to provide secondary scoring if paired with a guy who can provide some offense. EC's certainly not on Heatley's level, but they're also not going to draw as difficult of matchups with thosee other lines out there. Finally, Clutter-Cullen-McMillan have looked threatening at the least. Basically, the 6 guys combine for 2 pure grinders (McMillan/Brodziak), 2 grinders who can sub in as offensive guys (Clutter/Johnson), and two somewhat offensive guys (Cullen/EC). Since I don't want the two offensive guys together for different reasons, it's probably best to split the lines up evenly by role.

Were I to break up Johnson and Brodziak, I wouldn't mind seeing a Johnson-Cullen-Clutter and McMillan-Brodziak-EC setup either. But I don't think that works as well.

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Never have been impressed with Ortmeyer. Even Peters and Macmillan were having more offensive success than him. The guy should be in the AHL.

As far as lines, if we are keeping Koivu, Seto, and Heater together I would like to see

Heatley-Koivu-Setoguichi
Christiansen-Cullen-Johnson
Powe-Brodziak-Clutterbuck
MacMillan-Peters-Kassian/Staubitz

If we aren't I would like to see

Heatley-Koivu-Johnson
Christiansen-Brodziak-Setoguichi
Powe-Cullen-Clutterbuck

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I'm with squid in that johnson makes that line work. Not because hes awesome but because he can skate and get the puck and buy time.what I don't get is why he claims they need scoring from more than one line and then puts seto on the line with heatley?

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As expected, he cleared.

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