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02-09-2012, 05:14 AM
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but... but, fighting causes despression and... and, ummm.... errr... fighting is... argh... hmm.
wtf??

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02-09-2012, 09:31 AM
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Richer was never gay. He loved women, and women loved him. He comes from my neck of the woods. Never understood those rumours.
Probably jealousy. Any time a man in the public eye is loved by women, jealous people feel the need to call him gay.

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Probably jealousy. Any time a man in the public eye is loved by women, jealous people feel the need to call him gay.
Except Justin Bieber really is gay, he just has Selena confused for Scott.

I've definitely battled through depression at various points in life. Luckily I have some great friends around me and a lot of them have experienced similar difficulties. Talking about it really is a huge help.

Props to anyone who can admit their problems, especially those in high-profile cases like Richer.

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My 1st ever NHL jersey was a Richer #44, got it when I was 8.

But I've been hiding it in the closet for many years now... Time to take it out of the closet... no longer ashamed.

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My 1st ever NHL jersey was a Richer #44, got it when I was 8.

But I've been hiding it in the closet for many years now... Time to take it out of the closet... no longer ashamed.
Why would you ever have been ashamed? The guy was great.

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02-09-2012, 02:12 PM
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but... but, fighting causes despression and... and, ummm.... errr... fighting is... argh... hmm.
Oh shut up. I don't give a **** about hockey culture, depression supersedes any game traditions. If fighting causes depression, it should be taken out of games. If some players are susceptible to depression, they shouldn't be fighting, none of this macho BS. Speaking from shared and personal experience, I'd rather see a clean fightless game over a bunch of guys dealing with a serious mental illness.

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Why would you ever have been ashamed? The guy was great.
ya, was just kidding ... ''closet'' joke...

I used to get goose bumps as a kid when he scored...

'' Numero 44 ...... STEPHANE........ RIIIICHERRRRRRR ''

Him and Courtnall were my faves.

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02-10-2012, 10:01 AM
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Too bad this went undiagnosed for so long.
I suffered from depression for over 10 years until I hit rock bottom and was diagnosed with major depressive disorder in 2010.

I was terrified about seeking help. I was afraid of the stigma surrounding mental illness and was afraid of where Id end up. As a result I wore a variety of masks over the years to conceal the truth.

The few times I tried to confide in friends and family I received the typical "what do you have to be depressed about" or "snap out of it" response.

Sadly this is probably the case for a lot of people.

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and he was french too. It boggles the mind.
Not really. Habs fans demand players play hard and to their potential. Thats why so often you see a fourth liner be popular beyond his actual contribution to the team, because he plays hard and is a good fourth liner so the fans appreciate him.
Richer was a big guy, and though not physical he could protect the puck. He was also fast, could stickhandle and boy could he shoot. He and Kovalev had a similar game.I loved watching Richer, he was terrific. BUT. Richer scored 50 one year, then 25, then 51, then back down to 31. Fans saw he could score 50 and expected him to consistently do it because the ability was there and when he wasnt, it was because he wasnt giving it his all. So, boo.

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“The media and the people in Montreal, they really hurt me. I came to Montreal, I was 19, I was a kid. To be criticized, to be judged, to have so many stories around me — I was gay, on drugs, party all the time. . . . I’m a pretty shy guy, I’m pretty quiet, I just want to be home. I was dying inside.” -- Stephane Richer.


"But but but he's a millionaire, he's a pro athlete" say the ignorant fans.


See also Patrice Brisebois.

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02-10-2012, 12:40 PM
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I suffered from depression for over 10 years until I hit rock bottom and was diagnosed with major depressive disorder in 2010.

I was terrified about seeking help. I was afraid of the stigma surrounding mental illness and was afraid of where Id end up. As a result I wore a variety of masks over the years to conceal the truth.

The few times I tried to confide in friends and family I received the typical "what do you have to be depressed about" or "snap out of it" response.

Sadly this is probably the case for a lot of people.
I've never suffered from depression (except maybe as a Hab fan over the last 15 years) but I know people who have. Bottom line is that a lot people don't really know the signs unless they know somebody who's had it or suffer from it themselves. I remember a buddy of mine telling me he was depressed and I kind of sluffed it off, I had no idea how serious it was. Don't blame the folks who sluff you off, it's not that they don't care, it's that they don't know how serious it is. Clinical depression is not what springs to mind for them, they just assume you're bummed out for no reason and don't really understand how you're feeling.

If you're feeling depressed and really down, the right thing to do is to get professional help. The stigma surrounding this has really gone the way of the Do-Do bird. People are far more understanding of this now because there's more of an awareness that it exists. Nobody is going to think any less of you because you were strong enough and smart enough to go out and get help for yourself.

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I suffered from depression for over 10 years until I hit rock bottom and was diagnosed with major depressive disorder in 2010.

I was terrified about seeking help. I was afraid of the stigma surrounding mental illness and was afraid of where Id end up. As a result I wore a variety of masks over the years to conceal the truth.

The few times I tried to confide in friends and family I received the typical "what do you have to be depressed about" or "snap out of it" response.

Sadly this is probably the case for a lot of people.
Yeah, while things are getting better there's still a stigma, people don't understand just how irrational emotions and mental states can be. When I'm feeling down I don't really like to talk about it with my family, my father doesn't understand what I have to be unhappy about and my mother will accuse me of blaming my family or something. My mother has a lot of the same symptoms I do only worse, I've been trying to get her to seek help for a while now but she's very old school about these things.

For me personally the best thing is to just try and find people to talk about it with who understand, even if it means on an internet forum. The few times I've seeked therapy I was unable to be as open as I'd like to so for me the best solution has just been to be as open as possible with those who I can be. The stigma of therapy is hard to get over, especially for someone like me who only has moderate symptoms and rarely loses control. Knowing others who can relate helps.

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02-10-2012, 01:10 PM
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Yeah, while things are getting better there's still a stigma, people don't understand just how irrational emotions and mental states can be. When I'm feeling down I don't really like to talk about it with my family, my father doesn't understand what I have to be unhappy about and my mother will accuse me of blaming my family or something. My mother has a lot of the same symptoms I do only worse, I've been trying to get her to seek help for a while now but she's very old school about these things.

For me personally the best thing is to just try and find people to talk about it with who understand, even if it means on an internet forum. The few times I've seeked therapy I was unable to be as open as I'd like to so for me the best solution has just been to be as open as possible with those who I can be. The stigma of therapy is hard to get over, especially for someone like me who only has moderate symptoms and rarely loses control. Knowing others who can relate helps.
Don't get sucked in by the stigma. As I said above, for the most part it no longer exists. If you're feeling like you need help, seek it. Don't worry about what others think, they don't even have to know about it.

If you feel like you need help, get it.

BTW, I'm not a doctor but I play one on the internet. (You guys are probably too young to remember that commercial)

Edit: BTW, good on you for talking about this. Stay strong man.


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02-10-2012, 01:27 PM
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Oh shut up. I don't give a **** about hockey culture, depression supersedes any game traditions. If fighting causes depression, it should be taken out of games. If some players are susceptible to depression, they shouldn't be fighting, none of this macho BS. Speaking from shared and personal experience, I'd rather see a clean fightless game over a bunch of guys dealing with a serious mental illness.
I think you missed the point.

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“The media and the people in Montreal, they really hurt me. I came to Montreal, I was 19, I was a kid. To be criticized, to be judged, to have so many stories around me — I was gay, on drugs, party all the time. . . . I’m a pretty shy guy, I’m pretty quiet, I just want to be home. I was dying inside.” -- Stephane Richer.


"But but but he's a millionaire, he's a pro athlete" say the ignorant fans.


See also Patrice Brisebois.
And Brisebois came back! Gainey's call for the yellows to stay home is one of my favorite moment of him.

But, Brisebois didn't struggle with depression. Had he done so, maybe he would have suicided, the way people were harping at him.

Something to think about for the Molson Ex zone "fans".

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We are on a forum, but Et Le But has courage to speak about it. Few people are able and they don't want to.

Good luck and hope the best for you.

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