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02-10-2012, 04:41 AM
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Carl Hagelin's offensive potential

20 points in 34 games. Puts him at a pace for nearly 50 points if he plays a full season, he has a chance to hit 40 as a call up.

He's one of if not the fastest skaters on the team, and the entire league, and acts as a sparkplug to every line he plays on

Consistency: he's only gone 3 games without posting a point twice, 4 games without a point once.

So really, what's the ceiling on this guy?

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02-10-2012, 05:02 AM
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50-60 points? as long as he keeps his feet moving, good things will happen.

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In my opinion his ceiling is Ryan Callahan

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I don't believe anyone, even Carl Hagelin, know's what his true ceiling could be.

I'll put it this way though, the kid has grown better and better and better every year since he was a freshman in college so I believe there is a good chance that he will continue to improve for quite some time.

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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....

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02-10-2012, 07:01 AM
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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....
I would tend to agree..Although i do believe Hagelin has had a very good season season to this point, and i do think his future is very bright, i would need to see what he does in the playoffs and what he comes back with next year before i crown him King #2.

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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....
This kid ain't no fluke if you skate the way he skates and knows the game like he does you'll be successful.

On one of his interview he was talking about how his goal is to never be on the ice for a goal against. People underestimate what that kind of mentality is.

Just my opinion that you can't compare him to mza

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With a little more size and confidence to get past some of the league's bigger pylons more consistently, he'll have nowhere to go but up.

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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....
Zuccarello is nowhere near as fast, strong, intelligent on the ice, or tenacious.


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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....
I don't think that's a good comparison at all. Hagelin is bigger and much faster. He's strong defensively and doesn't get muscled off the puck as easily.

Zucc is a little more creative with the puck and probably has better vision, but that's all he's got on Hagelin, and it obviously isn't enough to earn him a permanent spot on the team.

Points-wise, their production is similar, but Hagelin does all the other things too. I like Zucc and I'd like to see him make it, if not with the Rangers, then with another team. If PAP can do that well on the isles, imagine what Zucc can do lol.

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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....
yea maybe, except for the fact that if his offensive output tappers off he can actually play defense and do something other then score.......

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Whoever said it is spot on. His ceiling is Ryan Callahan. 25-30 goal forward who has speed and can be put in every situation.

I think a future (within the next 3/4 years) top six of the below combination is going to be awesome.

Kreider Stepan Gaborik
Hagelin Miller Callahan

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Kreider Stepan Gaborik
Hagelin Miller Callahan
Did Richards go somewhere?

I think that Hagelin can be good, but he needs more size, without sacrificing the speed. I think that the size will determine if he is a good tweener between 2nd & 3rd line or can develop into a bonafide 2nd lien player.

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Did Richards go somewhere?

I think that Hagelin can be good, but he needs more size, without sacrificing the speed. I think that the size will determine if he is a good tweener between 2nd & 3rd line or can develop into a bonafide 2nd lien player.
when you talk about adding size do you mean being stronger along the boards and protecting the puck or being more physical on the forecheck?

if you meant the former than i agree whole heartedly, but if you meant the latter than i'd tend to disagree

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Whoever said it is spot on. His ceiling is Ryan Callahan. 25-30 goal forward who has speed and can be put in every situation.

I think a future (within the next 3/4 years) top six of the below combination is going to be awesome.

Kreider Stepan Gaborik
Hagelin Miller Callahan
Gaborik and Miller will never be in the top 6 together.

As far as Hagelin goes, He's been our best forward in 2/3 of our games. There was about a 5 game lull a few weeks and the past 3 or 4 games he's been under the radar. But other than those stretches he's been game in and game out the biggest difference maker among the forwards. You just go ahead and put some second line label or 50 point label on the kid. I'll continue to watch and enjoy a kid who has stepped into the NHL and been our best forward.

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This kid ain't no fluke if you skate the way he skates and knows the game like he does you'll be successful.

On one of his interview he was talking about how his goal is to never be on the ice for a goal against. People underestimate what that kind of mentality is.

Just my opinion that you can't compare him to mza
Your opinion is a fact.

It's a horrible, horrible comparison.

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Am I the only one who didn't interpret that post as "Hagelin is the same player as MZA?" Seems to me like he was comparing the fact that they both few under the radar and then came up and had a big impact on the team mid-season.

This board is like a giant game of whack-a-mole. Except instead of moles, we have posters bringing up MZA's positive qualities.

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The situations are not unalike.

But, all of Zuccarello's weaknesses are strengths for Hagelin.

Hands and vision Zuccarello has Hagelin beat. No contest. But everything else Hags over Zuccarello.

I wish Zuccarello were at least Callahan's size, because if he were, he would be playing for the Rangers right now.

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I don't get when people compare players because of irrelevant factors. Like comparing MZA to MSL because of their height, or comparing MZA to Hagelin because they were both called up during the season and provided some good offense. Anyway, I love what I've seen from Hagelin and I think he becomes around a 25 goal scorer.

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As far as Hagelin goes, He's been our best forward in 2/3 of our games. There was about a 5 game lull a few weeks and the past 3 or 4 games he's been under the radar. But other than those stretches he's been game in and game out the biggest difference maker among the forwards. You just go ahead and put some second line label or 50 point label on the kid. I'll continue to watch and enjoy a kid who has stepped into the NHL and been our best forward.
I agree with you, I hate these labels that seem to be a requirement on here. I think the most important quality about Hagelin is his work ethic. He has improved his game every year and I can't see how that will change.

SO pumped to watch this team grow, lots of good kids with good heads on their shoulders.

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Hagelin reminds me of Fredrik Sjostrom

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Hagelin reminds me of Fredrik Sjostrom
He's more talented. I liked Sjostrom but Hags has much better instincts.

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I said it before and I'll say it again;

Hags is this years zuccarello; young,fresh, exciting and hungry....

It's next season that counts....
No matter how many times you say it, it's still dead wrong. Hags made an immediate impact and has been consistent ever since, while MZA could go 5 or 6 straight games without being even slightly visible.

The comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

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He's more talented. I liked Sjostrom but Hags has much better instincts.
Sorry my bad, i should've put: Carl Hagelin is a more talented version of Fredrik Sjostrom.

EHM07 seems to think so too

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Did Richards go somewhere?

I think that Hagelin can be good, but he needs more size, without sacrificing the speed. I think that the size will determine if he is a good tweener between 2nd & 3rd line or can develop into a bonafide 2nd lien player.
Richards is on the 4th line with an aged Prust, Torts still trying to spark his play.

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