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If it comes down to having only one of them: MDZ or McD?

View Poll Results: Del Zotto or McDonagh?
Del Zotto 20 21.74%
McDonagh 72 78.26%
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02-10-2012, 06:10 PM
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Will not vote..I do think McD is and will be more valuable than MDZ

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02-10-2012, 06:21 PM
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I voted MDZ. McD is my favorite player and will be special. Unfortunately, I do not see him being a career Ranger. I could see him eventually ending up with the Canadiens.

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02-10-2012, 06:26 PM
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I voted MDZ. McD is my favorite player and will be special. Unfortunately, I do not see him being a career Ranger. I could see him eventually ending up with the Canadiens.
Let's trade him for Gomez!

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02-10-2012, 06:29 PM
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McDonagh by a long shot


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I voted MDZ. McD is my favorite player and will be special. Unfortunately, I do not see him being a career Ranger. I could see him eventually ending up with the Canadiens.
Why Canadiens?

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McDonagh by a long shot




Why Canadiens?
Unfinished business.

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02-10-2012, 07:03 PM
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McDonagh has higher upside. I'd stick with him.

Hopefully this doesn't happen though. I'm confident we'll keep them both.

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Unfinished business.
What do you mean? They traded him. Why would he ever want to come back there? If anything I can see him going to Minny to be closer to his family or whatever

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Both. If I had to choose, I'd grudgingly go with MDZ. McDonagh has more value (in a vacuum), but McD is the same kind of d-man that we have in Girardi and Staal (and more on the way in Erixon and McI). MDZ is really the only d-man of his kind at that level in the system.

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Both. If I had to choose, I'd grudgingly go with MDZ. McDonagh has more value (in a vacuum), but McD is the same kind of d-man that we have in Girardi and Staal (and more on the way in Erixon and McI). MDZ is really the only d-man of his kind at that level in the system.
Imo McDonagh has way more offensive upside than Girardi or Staal

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Imo McDonagh has way more offensive upside than Girardi or Staal
I agree, but none of them are ever going to be offensive dynamos. They will always be balanced, defense-first players. Del Zotto is the only guy in the system capable of putting up 50+ imo.

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I agree, but none of them are ever going to be offensive dynamos. They will always be balanced, defense-first players. Del Zotto is the only guy in the system capable of putting up 50+ imo.
Maybe, but I'll take McDonagh's stability and ability to play huge minutes over the 10-15 or so extra points that MDZ will bring.

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Maybe, but I'll take McDonagh's stability and ability to play huge minutes over the 10-15 or so extra points that MDZ will bring.
In a vacuum, I'd agree with you. If I had to pick one of the two to start an expansion team, for example, it would easily be McDonagh. If we had to choose one or the other within the context of the state of the team? I take Del Zotto. He's the only guy we've got with legit PMD talent. Staal and McD are practically clones, and Girardi is similar. Thankfully, we don't have to choose, though, eh? The only way I can see either guy getting moved is if one of them regresses big time for an extended period (ie- more than a full season) or one of them sours on the team and demands a trade (neither of which I see as likely).

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Imo McDonagh has way more offensive upside than Girardi or Staal
People say this a lot. Not sure I agree. Is it possible? Sure. I just don't know if I see him topping 30 points regularly.

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What do you mean? They traded him. Why would he ever want to come back there? If anything I can see him going to Minny to be closer to his family or whatever
True. But when I saw an interview he did and was asked about the trade, I was left with the impression of unfinished business between him and the organization. I hope to the hockey god that I am wrong though.

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I would hope we'll be able to keep them both..

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People say this a lot. Not sure I agree. Is it possible? Sure. I just don't know if I see him topping 30 points regularly.
He has the tools, but after a relatively hot start on offense he's tapered off considerably.

I think MDZ is bounds better than him at offense and has much higher offense upside.

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It's a simple if question people, not an ultimatum .

For me, McD rather easily.

Amazing skater, is already great defensively and has untapped offensive ability (his skating alone will always allow him to have a suitable offensive game).

However, I don't think McD will ever have an offensive or passing game like Del Zotto. And if DZ learns to hit the net consistently? Forget about it.

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Both will be regarded as excellent defensemen in this league in due time

Mcd has been a rock this season and del zotto took a giant leap forward...and they're both young with plenty of room to grow

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If Del Z could work on his accuracy, as in, hitting the 4X6, there would be no words.

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I'm not all that worried about what happens when their contracts run out. Unless something really changes, neither of these players have been good enough to jump over their 2nd contracts and get UFA money as RFAs, like Doughty was, for example. I expect both of their deals to be somewhere between $2m and $3m.

I think if put to the sword, I would have to choose DelZotto, simply because of the variety he adds to our D group. However, I'm not voting because to me, the premise of the thread is crazy.

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I feel like we would get more in return if we ever traded MDZ but that doesn't necessarily mean I'd rather keep McD over him. Just too hard to choose.

I still probably won't be able to answer this until next year, and even then I'm sure it will be debatable.

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MDZ has the offense that this team needs. Staal and girardi could play McD's role if he were to leave, but i dont see anyone replacing MDZ's offensive skills currently. (im of course talking if we had to choose one, because i would love to keep both.)

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I voted MDZ. McD is my favorite player and will be special. Unfortunately, I do not see him being a career Ranger. I could see him eventually ending up with the Canadiens.
Geez, I hope you're wrong!

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It's a simple if question people, not an ultimatum .

For me, McD rather easily.

Amazing skater, is already great defensively and has untapped offensive ability (his skating alone will always allow him to have a suitable offensive game).

However, I don't think McD will ever have an offensive or passing game like Del Zotto. And if DZ learns to hit the net consistently? Forget about it.
Great post. McD has uncanny ability as a skater and tremendous lower body strength but MDZ has much more upside offensively because of his superior passing game and puck moving ability. Let's hope we don't have to be burdened with the problem of choosing between the two down the road.

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Great post. McD has uncanny ability as a skater and tremendous lower body strength but MDZ has much more upside offensively because of his superior passing game and puck moving ability. Let's hope we don't have to be burdened with the problem of choosing between the two down the road.
I dont see the Rangers having a problem holding on to the two of them. I dont see them demanding the kind of money that will make the team have to let one go.

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