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01-29-2012, 03:00 PM
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Situational goalie stats per stint needed

On nhl.com one can find situational goalie stats.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/playerstats.h...TeamSaves&pg=1

However, if a goalie has represented more than one team, it only lists the seasonal total for all those stints combined.

Is there a place that lists the same information, but list stints instead? (So if a goalie has played for DET and CHI, two separate lines are listed.)

I need to know situational goalie stats. Shots at, goals against, save percentage. (I know only two are needed as the third can be calculated by the two first.)

Is there some place that lists situational team stats per season: shots at, goals against, save percentage?

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On NHL there you just click on the goalie bio and scroll down to the season of the trade and it has two separate lines.

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On NHL there you just click on the goalie bio and scroll down to the season of the trade and it has two separate lines.
Thanks, but it's not the same kind of stats, is it?

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Still no one who knows?

Below are examples where goalies has played for several teams during a season. I need to have these lines made into one line for each team they played for.

SeasSeas2ranktoiNameTeamGPGPstartsESSAESGAESsavesESsavepercSHSASHGASHsavesSHsavepercPPSAPPGAPPsavesPPsavepercTotsaveperc
2010201117Dwayne RolosonNYI/TBL545412849711870.924261322290.877519420.8240.914
2010201121Craig AndersonCOL/OTT5149124310311400.917266272390.898375320.8650.913
2010201124Brian ElliottOTT/COL5551123712411130.9268382300.858464420.9130.893
1997199820Sean BurkeCAR/VAN/PHI52459311028290.89301352660.884595540.9150.896
1997199822Mark FitzpatrickFLA/TBL4643912888240.904282392430.862467390.8480.892
1997199825Kirk McLeanVAN/CAR/FLA4440844917530.892223421810.812388300.7890.881
1997199831Garth SnowPHI/VAN4135703636400.91209261830.876334290.8790.901
1997199860Jason MuzzattiNYR/SJS74133161170.88302280.9336150.8330.888
(SH here is when the goalie's team played SH.)

There are 79 cases (above are 8 listed) during seasons 1997-98 to 2010-11 where a goalie played for more than one team during a single season.

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Is there still no one that can/will help?

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Best you can do is go through the game to game logs, or find someone that already has (Try at Yahoo's HAG_list group or somewhere like that). At least you would only need to do it for one team per season for most of them.

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Best you can do is go through the game to game logs, or find someone that already has (Try at Yahoo's HAG_list group or somewhere like that).
Thank you. I actually some half year ago became a member there, but didn't have Excel, and then I forgot about the site. Now I have Excel and view the content more easily. I didn't find what I'm specifically looking for here, but I did find some other interesting data, like save percentage for older seasons (I know it may not be totally reliable, but still).

I use gamelogs for some purposes, but not yet for goalie stats. Maybe I'll download all the available ones at nhl.com and insert its data into my tables, but I know from experience that even nhl.com's gamelogs are flawed (games are missing, game data is on rare occasions inaccurate). So if possible, when working on season stint totals, I prefer official summaries.

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At least you would only need to do it for one team per season for most of them.
If I understand you right, it's actually more than that. It's on average 6 teams per season that a goalie that played for multiple teams during the season. There are 79 cases in 13 seasons.

From nhl.com, SHSA (short handed shots at) are available, as are TotalSA. So if I for those teams mentioned above, take TotalSA minus SHSA, I have the ESPPSA. Since all kinds of situational GA are available, I can calculate save percentages for SH and ESPP. However, despite league average save percentages when playing ES or PP are relatively similar, there will be some differences between factual ES save percentages and the combined ESPP ones. (I know that by studying the other about 24 teams per season.) Still, the differences are small, and the stats probably are "biased" in the first place by things like luck and circumstances. Maybe the combined ESPP stat is about as accurate for ES as the ES stat itself is.

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