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02-07-2012, 02:23 PM
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Did you watch that game or just take a look at the box score ? The Devils game needs no explanation if you watched it.
Sure it does. The refs were terrible, Devs had a truckload of PP goals, but Bob still needs to stop a couple of those shots. Why exclude that one?

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Did you watch that game or just take a look at the box score ? The Devils game needs no explanation if you watched it.
I didn't watch it.

What did I miss that you find to be exculpatory?

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surely your not gunna try to say that was a fair game by any stretch are you ???
So there is some level of excuse for goals that's acceptable, then.

I'm just saying that saying that Bob "improves every day" isn't really real, that's all.

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02-07-2012, 03:43 PM
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So there is some level of excuse for goals that's acceptable, then.

I'm just saying that saying that Bob "improves every day" isn't really real, that's all.
try to rewatch that game..

you will understand then..

easily the WORST reff'd game i've ever witnessed, and im not just talking about a Flyers game either.

that game had such blatant bias it made the WWE seem like honest reffing.

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I don't think what people realize is just how important of a cog Pronger was to this team and what we're seeing right now is how devastating the loss is of the General. If Pronger's in the lineup, I don't think anything is said about Bryzgalov and he's playing his best hockey. Now that Pronger's gone, it seems that the defense seems to be a bit leaderless right now.

Yes, Timonen is probably having his best season as a defender. With that being said, I'm wondering how much of a leader he really is and maybe he's feeling a degree of frustration with everything. It'd be easier if one of the other defensemen stepped forward and became a leader as well.

As for Bryzgalov, this is definitely an off year for him. I still maintain that he's carrying too much weight. Yes, there are games when he seems to be on, but more often than not, he's off. His lateral movement is terrible and his positioning is not what it used to be. When he played in Phoenix and Anaheim, his weight was usually between 190 and 195. With the Flyers, I believe he is playing around the 210-220 mark. That's not saying he's fat or out shape, but he's too heavy to be effective.

I'm confident that once he gets his weight down again, he'll be the top goalie he once was. It's to point fingers and say things like it's the system, it's the defense, blah blah blah.....but in this case, I think Bryzgalov's issue is that he added unnecessary weight to his frame and it's killing his game.

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02-07-2012, 11:16 PM
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maybe Timonen oughta call out the forwards now

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02-07-2012, 11:22 PM
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maybe Timonen oughta call out the forwards now
Not really....team is still among the top offensive teams in the league and have been consistent scoring for the most part this season...can't say the same about Bryz's consistency...particularly against elite contenders...

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02-07-2012, 11:24 PM
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Not really...
0 goals vs NYI .... yeah, REALLY.

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0 goals vs NYI .... yeah, REALLY.
There's a difference between an offensive unit that has scored loads of goals and a goaltender who's spent most of the year being inconsistent at best.

If they get shut out once, it's not a big deal. It's like Lundqvist letting in a bad goal; you shrug it off as an anomaly. So far the offense has earned the benefit of the doubt. Bryz has not.

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0 goals vs NYI .... yeah, REALLY.
um....and how many times have we crushed that team previously? No really....

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I don't think what people realize is just how important of a cog Pronger was to this team and what we're seeing right now is how devastating the loss is of the General. If Pronger's in the lineup, I don't think anything is said about Bryzgalov and he's playing his best hockey. Now that Pronger's gone, it seems that the defense seems to be a bit leaderless right now.

Yes, Timonen is probably having his best season as a defender. With that being said, I'm wondering how much of a leader he really is and maybe he's feeling a degree of frustration with everything. It'd be easier if one of the other defensemen stepped forward and became a leader as well.

As for Bryzgalov, this is definitely an off year for him. I still maintain that he's carrying too much weight. Yes, there are games when he seems to be on, but more often than not, he's off. His lateral movement is terrible and his positioning is not what it used to be. When he played in Phoenix and Anaheim, his weight was usually between 190 and 195. With the Flyers, I believe he is playing around the 210-220 mark. That's not saying he's fat or out shape, but he's too heavy to be effective.

I'm confident that once he gets his weight down again, he'll be the top goalie he once was. It's to point fingers and say things like it's the system, it's the defense, blah blah blah.....but in this case, I think Bryzgalov's issue is that he added unnecessary weight to his frame and it's killing his game.
Too much vodka, cabbage rolls and perogies will do that to your physique. I know from personal experience

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0 goals vs NYI .... yeah, REALLY.
I am not too worried on this offense scoring goals. This is one of the best regular season offensive systems in the league.

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I am not too worried
not my point ... Timo needs to publicly question the team's Offense.

I want to see him say "We can do a couple of things better, but when you break it down, their team scores in the shootout.”

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Went to the Islanders /Flyers game last night. Got there for warmups and was right behined the Flyers net. As i was standing there a guy holds up a sign that say (something along the lines of), ” I wish I was paid $51 million to be bad at my job” and Giroux saw it and shot a puck at the guy and his lips said, “put the ********** sign down"
I think this shows that there's no "locker room division" and despite whatever we think Kimo meant by his comments, there are players on the team who defend Bryz.

Also, whoever brought that sign is an idiot and stuff like that is only gonna make things worse.

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I think this shows that there's no "locker room division" and despite whatever we think Kimo meant by his comments, there are players on the team who defend Bryz.

Also, whoever brought that sign is an idiot and stuff like that is only gonna make things worse.
I'm very pleased to read this.

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0 goals vs NYI .... yeah, REALLY.
so if/when he gives up 4 or 5 to the Leafs and loses it will be ok then. as long as he keeps up that save percentage of .915 in 2012

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I think this shows that there's no "locker room division" and despite whatever we think Kimo meant by his comments, there are players on the team who defend Bryz.

Also, whoever brought that sign is an idiot and stuff like that is only gonna make things worse.
i cant see any way a Flyers player would react any other way..

even if Bryz is a cancer in the room, the rest of the team isnt exactly gunna find a sign like that funny and point it out.

wether someone feels Bryz is doing well or bad, making a sign that grieves him right behind the net isnt exactly in the teams best interest..

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“They play the same system, it's not a surprise to us,” Kimmo Timonen said. “They block a lot of shots, but everybody’s blocking a lot of shots. We can do a couple of things better, but when they break down, their goalie makes saves.”
yea, Kimmo ..... keep thinking that ..... just whistle through that graveyard ....

shut the Frick up !

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You're reading a little too much into it here. He merely means Lundqvist.

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Even Lundy would not be making the miraculous saves on the golden opportunities this defense gives up... As good as he is, he isn't THAT good. No one is. 3 of the 5 goals were basically tap-ins that a beer league player would be able to finish...

Timonen should just shutup and perhaps take some of the accountability too.. Lundy is there to make those breakdown saves because his defense closes down the gaps and forces the Flyers to either try a low percentage play or take a low percentage shot. Anyone that has ever played hockey can see that the saves he is making aren't all that spectacular. Look how silly he looked on the Giroux breakaway.

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I think this shows that there's no "locker room division" and despite whatever we think Kimo meant by his comments, there are players on the team who defend Bryz.

Also, whoever brought that sign is an idiot and stuff like that is only gonna make things worse.
I don't think there is a division ether but for what it's worth I don't think that proves it. Players will usually defend each other in public even if they are having issues. Kind of like the rumored divide with Mike Richards. When he was here every single player who was asked denied any locker room division yet reports kept coming out saying the players were having heated arguments and some were disgruntled with Richards and such. Then when he was traded some wasted no time in anonymously trashing him in the media. Yet the team and Richards still downplay it.

But like I said I don't think the locker is divided because of Bryz.

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