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02-13-2012, 07:11 PM
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If Laval actually gets the Bulldogs, I am going to flip. Would love to get the chance to see players like Tinordi, Beaulieu, Gallagher, Bournival among others play before hitting the NHL.

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Maybe you are right (especially regarding the rivalries) but Evenko, Bell and the city of Laval seem to think it would draw. We will see.

Btw, are things going well in terms of attendance in Hamilton?
Hamilton has the same issue with Rivalries.

Play Toronto and draw 6000-8000 sometimes even more.

Play other weekend games and draw 4000+

Play a tuesday night game against say Portland, or Springfield, or Oklahoma City, or some other non geographic rival and you are looking at 2000-2500 fans.

So its really based on what night of the week it is, and who the opponent is.

And then you have the outdoor game where they were charging 80-100 a ticket and sold over 20,000 tickets, so they made a ton of cash on that.

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Hopefully they'll rename the Bulldogs to something more Canadiens-ish. Like les "Habitants" or le "Tricolore" or les "Jeunes Glorieux". I dunno I'm just brainstorming here.

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Hopefully they'll rename the Bulldogs to something more Canadiens-ish. Like les "Habitants" or le "Tricolore" or les "Jeunes Glorieux". I dunno I'm just brainstorming here.
Les Voyageurs, like the AHL team which was playing in Montreal in the early 70's.

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Hopefully they'll rename the Bulldogs to something more Canadiens-ish. Like les "Habitants" or le "Tricolore" or les "Jeunes Glorieux". I dunno I'm just brainstorming here.
As was said before, don't even expect the Bulldogs... as the Bulldogs will likely stay in Hamilton and the team name will remain with the franchise even with an affiliation change.

They were the Bulldogs when they were the Oilers farm team as well.

Andaleur has said, if they Habs want their AHL affiliate in Laval, they will need to change affiliations and move another franchise there, because the Bulldogs will stay in Hamilton with a new affiliation rather than move directly.

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Les Voyageurs, like the AHL team which was playing in Montreal in the early 70's.

How was the attendance then?

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Taxpayer money need not apply, unfortunately i don't think that is the case. I believe the key is for evenko to own and manage a secondary venue for smaller shows where they wouldn't have to use the verdun auditorium or other such building. Bulldogs or a derivative thereof are there for another 40-50 dates.
I don't really mind any of this except for the taxpayer money part.

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Hopefully they'll rename the Bulldogs to something more Canadiens-ish. Like les "Habitants" or le "Tricolore" or les "Jeunes Glorieux". I dunno I'm just brainstorming here.
I would just name them Laval Canadiens. Back when our affiliate was in Sherbrooke and Fredericton I believe those teams were named Canadiens.

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How a 10 000 seats arena including another ice rink cost 120M$ while a 18 000 seats arena costs more than 400M$?

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How a 10 000 seats arena including another ice rink cost 120M$ while a 18 000 seats arena costs more than 400M$?
Im guessing land in Laval is a lot cheaper than in Downtown Montreal.

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Im guessing land in Laval is a lot cheaper than in Downtown Montreal.
I was referring to the colisee in Quebec

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Whatever gets them more games on TV is fine with me.

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I was referring to the colisee in Quebec
Same Principle. Downtown land in the city costs a lot more than land in the suburbs.

Also everything in the NHL arena, jumbotron, dressing rooms, luxury suites, etc... is top of the line, top notch stuff.

The smaller rink for the minor league is gonna see some corners cut, where you get good stuff, but not the absolute best state of the art equipment.

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How a 10 000 seats arena including another ice rink cost 120M$ while a 18 000 seats arena costs more than 400M$?
Toilets are the main difference.

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Hopefully they'll rename the Bulldogs to something more Canadiens-ish. Like les "Habitants" or le "Tricolore" or les "Jeunes Glorieux". I dunno I'm just brainstorming here.
"Les Chiens-Boeufs"

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The Dogs will be moving. The owner has business ventures in Laval. They will be moving.

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The Dogs will be moving. The owner has business ventures in Laval. They will be moving.
The owner lives in Burlington, and has stated he has more business ventures there than Laval.

http://www.thespec.com/sports/bulldo...ogs-not-moving

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“As long as I’m the Bulldogs’ owner, we’re not going anywhere,” he said Wednesday.
He reiterated this statement on the radio when he basically stated that while some of his business interests are in Laval, he lives in Burlington and has more business interests in Hamilton and Southern Ontario than in Laval.

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so is this going to be at the old centre 2000 next to centropolis, or down the street next to chomedey high/city hall/quarry? either way, sweet **** 4 minutes up the road for me to check out some hockey.

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so is this going to be at the old centre 2000 next to centropolis, or down the street next to chomedey high/city hall/quarry? either way, sweet **** 4 minutes up the road for me to check out some hockey.
Me too went to Comedy High Cant wait to bring the family back to watch Montreal's Brightest stars be great for Chomedey and Laval

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I'd be extremely surprised if the Habs' affiliate, whether they are the bulldogs or another AHL team, don't end up playing in Laval within the next 3-4 years.

As for those complaining about tax money, you can stop. This building was entirely funded from Laval budget and private investment funds. Vaillancount has stated that Laval tax payers will not see a single raise in any kind of taxes.

The project is a great idea. It will bring more money to the city of Laval and will be a big perk for the Canadiens.

As someone who works in a ****** Laval arena, let me tell you, this was needed. They can now close a few facilities that were due for some up-keeping (http://blogues.radio-canada.ca/rive-...is-etat-laval/). The city was due to inject 27M in those arenas but won't have to thanks to this project: the new facility will welcome minor hockey leagues, speed skating, etc.

All in all, this is a great project that was handled in a much better way than Quebec City's fiasco.

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so is this going to be at the old centre 2000 next to centropolis, or down the street next to chomedey high/city hall/quarry? either way, sweet **** 4 minutes up the road for me to check out some hockey.
Supposed to be next to the Palais de Justice (Daniel-Johnson / Souvenir / Saint-Martin).


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If Andlauer does not want to move the Bulldogs, I can see Molson buying another AHL team and move them.

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How was the attendance then?
I was too young to remember. They were playing at the Forum. They did not last long. Two seasons at the most. After that, they were relocated to Halifax, then Sherbrooke, then Fredericton, then Quebec City, and finally Hamilton where they were sharing the team with Edmonton for a while.

Les Canadiens Junior were the big thing back then in the late sixties with Houle, Tardif, Perreault, Martin & cie and were filling up the Forum, more than the Habs.

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There were major problems with attendance for the Montreal Junior in Verdun... why do people assume Laval would draw?
I do not mean to insult anyone from Verdun but... you simply cannot compare the economic growth, population growth, average age of population, median income, and modernity of Laval and Verdun.

The two are just not the same.

Visit both and tell us otherwise.

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Verdun's arena is just awful to begin with.

But beware, once the Bulldogs move in Laval and they do as poorly as they are now. All teh french medias will rip our youngster apart before they've even played one NHL game.

They will know how to coach them at "L'Antichambre" better then the head coach and htey will keep raving about how our drafts sucks every year...

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