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02-14-2012, 11:24 AM
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i'd rather have no suspensions league wide than these unfair and inconsistent suspensions that we have now.

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Am I the only one who doesn't have much issue with the Rinaldo suspension or the Moore non-suspension?

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Am I the only one who doesn't have much issue with the Rinaldo suspension or the Moore non-suspension?
Seconded. I don't see anything wrong with Rinaldo being suspended.

Slew-foot on Parise last weekend.

High hit that was a charge this weekend.

IMO, that's a suspension to me.

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Am I the only one who doesn't have much issue with the Rinaldo suspension or the Moore non-suspension?
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Seconded. I don't see anything wrong with Rinaldo being suspended.

Slew-foot on Parise last weekend.

High hit that was a charge this weekend.

IMO, that's a suspension to me.
Thirded.

Without the incidents in the NJ game and his comments afterwards, he doesn't get suspended.

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Seconded. I don't see anything wrong with Rinaldo being suspended.

Slew-foot on Parise last weekend.

High hit that was a charge this weekend.

IMO, that's a suspension to me.
so from now on, every Rinaldo charge or board will lead to suspensions. You will be ok with that? might as well stick him in the pressbox. the league will try to nueter him. if he cant hit then well he isnt effective.
I didnt have an issue with the fine on the slewfoot. I didnt like him doing that, that was stupid. But to suspend him for this was just stupid. It was a 2 minute minor for charging and even that was questionale. I think the impact of the hit lifted his skates up more then anything.
no contact with the head. 2 game suspension. very, very weak IMO

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Thirded.

Without the incidents in the NJ game and his comments afterwards, he doesn't get suspended.

I agree here with this. If he didn't slew foot Parise, and then admit it after the fact. He wouldn't of been suspended for the hit.


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so from now on, every Rinaldo charge or board will lead to suspensions. You will be ok with that? might as well stick him in the pressbox. the league will try to nueter him. if he cant hit then well he isnt effective.
I didnt have an issue with the fine on the slewfoot. I didnt like him doing that, that was stupid. But to suspend him for this was just stupid. It was a 2 minute minor for charging and even that was questionale. I think the impact of the hit lifted his skates up more then anything.
no contact with the head. 2 game suspension. very, very weak IMO
I'm not sure what you're trying to say? I was stating because the SLEW FOOT happened last weekend, and he admitted to it being a slew foot. The next weekend, he takes a questionable charging, where he took about 6-7 strides to make contact with Ericsson. I don't see how it's questionable, he took 6-7 strides and then made contact with Ericsson slightly high. I'd be willing to say that if he didn't slew foot Parise and then admit to it, he doesn't get suspended for this hit on Ericsson.

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I dont know why people are surprised. Look, a reputation throughout your hockey career is going to be noticed anywhere you go. Happens in every single sport. Im a ref in a different sport, and honestly, it just happens. Human nature. He is going to get called for anything borderline and above. This is going to happen throughout his however long NHL career.

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so from now on, every Rinaldo charge or board will lead to suspensions. You will be ok with that? might as well stick him in the pressbox. the league will try to nueter him. if he cant hit then well he isnt effective.
I didnt have an issue with the fine on the slewfoot. I didnt like him doing that, that was stupid. But to suspend him for this was just stupid. It was a 2 minute minor for charging and even that was questionale. I think the impact of the hit lifted his skates up more then anything.
no contact with the head. 2 game suspension. very, very weak IMO
Yeah I'll be ok with that. You're not supposed to be charging or boarding in the sport to begin with. They're illegal hits. If Rinaldo starts getting suspended for legal hits, then I'll mind. Don't act like he can't still throw his weight around, that's a crock. As much a crock as everyone still *****ing about the suspension in this thread. It's not that hard to understand...

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say? I was stating because the SLEW FOOT happened last weekend, and he admitted to it being a slew foot. The next weekend, he takes a questionable charging, where he took about 6-7 strides to make contact with Ericsson. I don't see how it's questionable, he took 6-7 strides and then made contact with Ericsson slightly high. I'd be willing to say that if he didn't slew foot Parise and then admit to it, he doesn't get suspended for this hit on Ericsson.
It was a 2 minute minor for charging. nothing more. thats what I am trying to say. the suspension is quesionable due to Shanahan's inconsistancy. he didnt have to admit to the slewfoot. its on tape.

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Yeah I'll be ok with that. You're not supposed to be charging or boarding in the sport to begin with. They're illegal hits. If Rinaldo starts getting suspended for legal hits, then I'll mind. Don't act like he can't still throw his weight around, that's a crock. As much a crock as everyone still *****ing about the suspension in this thread. It's not that hard to understand...
My point is if he knows he may get suspended for every charge or board that he commits then he may be thinking well, I better not hit this guy then. I am not saying he wont be able to throw his way around, I am just saying he may not hit as much now knowing that he is now on a very short leash. even when its just 2 minute minors hes commiting. He is a young player and he start backing off hitting guys.
The refs know who he is obviously. You dont think there is a chance he is going to get sent to the box more now for legal checks? Its going to happen.

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It was a 2 minute minor for charging. nothing more. thats what I am trying to say. the suspension is quesionable due to Shanahan's inconsistancy. he didnt have to admit to the slewfoot. its on tape.



My point is if he knows he may get suspended for every charge or board that he commits then he may be thinking well, I better not hit this guy then. I am not saying he wont be able to throw his way around, I am just saying he may not hit as much now knowing that he is now on a very short leash. even when its just 2 minute minors hes commiting. He is a young player and he start backing off hitting guys.
The refs know who he is obviously. You dont think there is a chance he is going to get sent to the box more now for legal checks? Its going to happen.
I really don't think he's been called for that many reputation calls this year. From the games I've seen this year, they've let him play for the most part. Now suspensions are another story. As long as he doesn't turn into a Matt Cooke softie (which I still think is BS, he'll be back to his old ways next year once his name moves off the books)

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Am I the only one who doesn't have much issue with the Rinaldo suspension or the Moore non-suspension?
I don't necessarily agree with the Rinaldo suspension, but I can understand it. I don't think it's a hit that should result in a suspension, but considering his slew foot and late hit just a little while back it makes some sense that things add up after a while, I suppose.

I thought the Moore hit looked terrible at first, and was sure that he would be out for a long time, but I hadn't seen that other angle. I'm ok with that not being a suspension for sure.

The only real problem I have with these things is that they take into consideration if the guy getting hit is injured or not. I don't think that should really be important when handing out suspensions/fine.

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so from now on, every Rinaldo charge or board will lead to suspensions. You will be ok with that? might as well stick him in the pressbox. the league will try to nueter him. if he cant hit then well he isnt effective.
I didnt have an issue with the fine on the slewfoot. I didnt like him doing that, that was stupid. But to suspend him for this was just stupid. It was a 2 minute minor for charging and even that was questionale. I think the impact of the hit lifted his skates up more then anything.
no contact with the head. 2 game suspension. very, very weak IMO
no, it really didn't. they froze the video at the moment of impact and he was quite clearly off the ice at that point.

and he won't get suspended every time he charges, but when he does it less than a week after committing a dirty play against a very good player, he probably will be suspended.

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no, it really didn't. they froze the video at the moment of impact and he was quite clearly off the ice at that point.

and he won't get suspended every time he charges, but when he does it less than a week after committing a dirty play against a very good player, he probably will be suspended.

Suspensions shouldn't be built on cummulative actions. They should be based on each action and the player be punished accordingly. This is no different than before Shanahan came along.

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Seconded. I don't see anything wrong with Rinaldo being suspended.

Slew-foot on Parise last weekend.

High hit that was a charge this weekend.

IMO, that's a suspension to me.

Get over the slew-foot on Parise. It was a dumb mistake, everyone takes "idiotic" penalties. This is hockey, not some cutesy figure skating pageant. As for the "high hit" he got called charging on; it was a debatable call that I can see going both ways. He was penalized for it, and that should be the end of it.

I don't understand how you can justify a suspension for a "charging" call where the other player wasn't injured. Ericsson is 6'4 while Rinaldo is 5'11. Of course he's going to have to hit high on a guy that's 5 inches taller than him. The video shows Rinaldo leaving his feet; or as Shanahan so lovingly puts it "launching himself." Sure, call it a charge that's fine with me, but there is absolutely no need to hand out a 2 game suspension.

Bottom line: Ericsson should have been more aware of his surroundings on the ice and should not have left himself susceptible of getting hit. Rinaldo did his time in the cubical of shame, and it should of ended there. Now more so than ever Rinaldo will have himself a bad(er) reputation around the NHL. So, whenever Rinaldo delivers a big hit or has a questionable penalty Shannhan will sit in his 8 bedroom, 5 bathroom Duxbury estate, slip on his most comfortable silk robe, crack open a Sam Adams, light up a Don Arturo cigar and ponder to himself "how I can **** Rinaldo in the ass this time."

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Get over the slew-foot on Parise. It was a dumb mistake, everyone takes "idiotic" penalties. This is hockey, not some cutesy figure skating pageant. As for the "high hit" he got called charging on; it was a debatable call that I can see going both ways. He was penalized for it, and that should be the end of it.

I don't understand how you can justify a suspension for a "charging" call where the other player wasn't injured. Ericsson is 6'4 while Rinaldo is 5'11. Of course he's going to have to hit high on a guy that's 5 inches taller than him. The video shows Rinaldo leaving his feet; or as Shanahan so lovingly puts it "launching himself." Sure, call it a charge that's fine with me, but there is absolutely no need to hand out a 2 game suspension.

Bottom line: Ericsson should have been more aware of his surroundings on the ice and should not have left himself susceptible of getting hit. Rinaldo did his time in the cubical of shame, and it should of ended there. Now more so than ever Rinaldo will have himself a bad(er) reputation around the NHL. So, whenever Rinaldo delivers a big hit or has a questionable penalty Shannhan will sit in his 8 bedroom, 5 bathroom Duxbury estate, slip on his most comfortable silk robe, crack open a Sam Adams, light up a Don Arturo cigar and ponder to himself "how I can **** Rinaldo in the ass this time."
I don't think everyone does take dumb mistakes, actually...most slew foots are calculated. 2 game suspension was fair. Rinaldo was in position to lay a legal check, and decided to leave his feet.

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Redwing fan here. That was a borderline minor penalty and did not in any way deserve a suspension.

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to me its starting (or has been for awhile) when it comes to Rinaldo and how effective he is at massive checks.

its more likely then not, penalty's by the ref are handed out depending on the crowds reaction, if the crowd is loud and they usualy do get so, the refs seem to rethink about calling it.

some of the calls have been well after the fact.

i swear the refs only make the penalty call because of the noise the crowd makes..

if its loud, surely it must have been a penalty..

its ****en bogus.

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