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02-15-2012, 03:42 PM
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Washington - Columbus

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M. Perreault (RFA), C
BOS 2nd round, 2012



A. Vermette, C


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I'm not a jackets fan but I'd think Columbus should take this and run.

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02-15-2012, 03:46 PM
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I'm not a jackets fan but I'd think Columbus should take this and run.
one bound and gagged Vermette in my trunk headed towards DC. Where ya want me to drop him off?

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Holy overpayment Batman!

Take out the draft pick on both sides, tack on a Caps 3rd, and I'd do it. I don't think Vermette would have a lot of value to the Caps though. We already have Brooks Laich and Jeff Halpern to be shutdown centers, and Marcus Johansson gives us better production as a 2C. Our offense is going to take more Eric Belanger/Brendan Morrison part 3 to straighten it out - we need legit top 6 forwards who can give us 60+ points, or at least give us 40-50 on a cheap (i.e. rookie) contract. Vermette is neither, so there no point giving up valuable assets for him.

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Vermette alone is worth a first rounder? Is this reality?

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My reaction: "Gosh, I wonder why everyone is saying this is an overpaOH MY G-D."

I can't imagine Washington going for this one; the center situation over there seems to have more or less straightened itself out.

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Holy overpayment Batman!

Take out the draft pick on both sides, tack on a Caps 3rd, and I'd do it. I don't think Vermette would have a lot of value to the Caps though. We already have Brooks Laich and Jeff Halpern to be shutdown centers, and Marcus Johansson gives us better production as a 2C. Our offense is going to take more Eric Belanger/Brendan Morrison part 3 to straighten it out - we need legit top 6 forwards who can give us 60+ points, or at least give us 40-50 on a cheap (i.e. rookie) contract. Vermette is neither, so there no point giving up valuable assets for him.
Caps 3rd could be almost = Jackets 4th. Caps dont have 2nd, that's the problem. Bruins' 2nd is a bit low I guess.

I thought Schultz could be a salary dump but if CBJ has no need in him - maybe Perreault+pick for Vermette will be OK?

But then Caps can't operate without LTIR.

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Vermette is terrible.

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My reaction: "Gosh, I wonder why everyone is saying this is an overpaOH MY G-D."

I can't imagine Washington going for this one; the center situation over there seems to have more or less straightened itself out.
What?

The Caps are without Backstrom for who knows how long. Brooks Laich is better on the wing, Johansson and Perreault are both small 2nd year players. The Caps need a 2nd line center.

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I don't think Columbus could trade Vermette away for a UFA forward.

Instead of Perrault put maybe one of the 1sts for Vermette + 2nd.

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Can't see Capitals doing this. Perreault is finally moving his feet and producing; We reallyyyy do need a 2c...

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I don't think Columbus could trade Vermette away for a UFA forward.

Instead of Perrault put maybe one of the 1sts for Vermette + 2nd.
My mistake, sorry. Perreault is RFA.

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Can't see Capitals doing this. Perreault is finally moving his feet and producing; We reallyyyy do need a 2c...

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What?

The Caps are without Backstrom for who knows how long. Brooks Laich is better on the wing, Johansson and Perreault are both small 2nd year players. The Caps need a 2nd line center.
...wait, Backstrom is injured?
Okay, yeah, just ignore what I was saying.

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What is Perreault projected to be? a third liner?

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What is Perreault projected to be? a third liner?
Undersized 2nd line offensive center. Spark-plug. He's lacking consistency and size ofc. But he's making plays.

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What?

The Caps are without Backstrom for who knows how long. Brooks Laich is better on the wing, Johansson and Perreault are both small 2nd year players. The Caps need a 2nd line center.
You really want to give up assets that could be of major use in the future to fill the gap at 2C for the rest of this failure of a season? I really hope GMGM isn't as short sighted. We'd be much better off in the long run selling off guys like Wideman and Vokoun at the deadline instead of making overpayments like this so we can get our ***** handed to us by NY or Boston in the first round.

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You really want to give up assets that could be of major use in the future to fill the gap at 2C for the rest of this failure of a season
Vermette is under contract for next season too. He is a stopgap until Johansson's ELC will come to an end.

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Caps 3rd could be almost = Jackets 4th. Caps dont have 2nd, that's the problem. Bruins' 2nd is a bit low I guess.

I thought Schultz could be a salary dump but if CBJ has no need in him - maybe Perreault+pick for Vermette will be OK?

But then Caps can't operate without LTIR.
The Jackets traded their 4th to Pittsburgh for Mark Letestu this year.

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No way we want Vermette. Nuff Said.

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You really want to give up assets that could be of major use in the future to fill the gap at 2C for the rest of this failure of a season? I really hope GMGM isn't as short sighted. We'd be much better off in the long run selling off guys like Wideman and Vokoun at the deadline instead of making overpayments like this so we can get our ***** handed to us by NY or Boston in the first round.
You really think GMGM would sell off the UFA's and pretty much admit that he did a bad job putting the team together in the off-season? Not a chance he does that.

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You really think GMGM would sell off the UFA's and pretty much admit that he did a bad job putting the team together in the off-season? Not a chance he does that.
No, he probably won't admit it. Not that we don't all know it though. To plenty of us, it was obvious from the beginning that Laich, Ward, and Hamrlik would never live up to their deals. Personally, I hated those deals when they happened. Funny, considering the guy I really wanted us to sign was Radim Vrbata, who signed for virtually the same contract as Ward (one year shorter, same cap hit) and has more goals than the three of them combined, and Hannan, who's far exceeded expectations in Calgary with a 1M cap hit.

But enough living in the past. The fact is, this team is not close to contending for a Stanley Cup. We lack the secondary scoring and defensive play to make any sort of run. The best thing for the club is to get what they can guys on their way out like Vokoun and Wideman and do a mini rebuild. Adding production from young players on their first, second, or third contracts is how you afford secondary scoring in a salary cap world. Add guys like Morin and Kuznetsov to the top 6, and within a year or two you could have two guys giving you top 6, maybe even top 3 production for less than a million each. Johansson will have improved in that time, but will still be on a small contract. The you add the guys we get in the great draft this year with two picks in the top half of the first round, and you're laying the foundation for the kind of depth teams like Boston, Philly, and Vancouver have. And all it really takes is rolling over this year. I'm more than willing to ditch our annual flame out if it means a much better chance down the road. If McPhee didn't have to worry about his job and Leonsis didn't have to worry about ticket sales, this would clearly be the best strategy. But those things matter, so we'll probably just maintain the status quo and never make the significant changes we need in order to become a true contender. Such is life.

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