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02-13-2012, 10:42 PM
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Aha, but what # will he wear?
He can't wear 19, but he has worn 20 for USA.
Actually, as long as he's productive, I don't care what number he wears.

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Watch the forum collapse when Kreider announces he will return for his senior year. lol
more like he's going to grad school

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To be honest I am almost happy he isn't putting up unreal numbers. Super solid numbers while playing an awesome overall game and never giving up defensive position to cheat on plays. If Kreider went full offensive mode his numbers would be inflated like crazy. Kid looks great, time will tell.

No doubt he will be a solid NHLer, gotta believe the floor is 40 points with great intangibles and all around game. With the current Rangers system and players he would fit in perfect and have game changing qualities. Between WJC, WC and College he has played all different situations, stages and positions. I have seen him on the PP play the point like tonight, low in the slot and parked in front of the goalie. Awesome asset to have as a pretty polished rookie with a full ELC left

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either 20 or 91 hopefully!

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either 20 or 91 hopefully!
exactly

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91 looks great in jerseys. It's his birth year, so why not?

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highlights from tonight:http://www.nesn.com/2012/02/bill-arn...ing-final.html

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That was a wicked shot by kreider on the PP. Great to see him start the pile on in the celebration in ot.

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02-14-2012, 02:42 AM
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I don't understand the comparisons to Gaborik.

They are two completely opposite types of players. One is a finesse player, one is a power forward.

Yes they are both very fast and have good shots but thats about it.

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02-14-2012, 04:01 AM
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Badgerfan... I think the reason why people often compare Krieder to Gabby is though they have very different body types, they do have lots of similarities in the way they approach the offensive side of the game. Both Krieder and Gabby use changes of speed to surprise opponents, they both have lethal releases on their shots, they both skate ahead and try to stretch the D, and they also both glide to open areas of ice when they don't have the puck.

In fact, it's this last trait that could be super effective (ala Gabby and Hagelin) where Rangers D may just be able to dump the puck to areas and have Kreider beat defenders there. Or, conversely, his propensity to glide to open spots also scares me the most as it's a trait when used incorrectly, could really get under Torts' skin.

Torts will want kreider to play more of a forceful, pressure, straight ahead game on both sides of the rink. This is something that Hagelin took about 20 games in the AHL to figure out. But with Kreider's size, I can see Torts wanting him to really learn how to use his body. And it's unclear if Kreider fully knows hot to do this yet, consistently. Sometimes he outright outmuscles guys off the puck. Other times, he'll poke check as opposed to forcefully taking the body.

It's going to be really interesting to track Kreider's transition to the pro game and how long it takes for him to play the way torts will want him to (and find his scoring ways at the next level).

Furthermore, Kreider will finally be playing against men his own size in the NHL. CK's transition to pros will probably be one of the more interesting ones in recent memory...

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Kreider has experience playing against NHL caliber players. He's played in the Men's World Championship the last two springs.

That, and he will also have NHL caliber teammates instead of NCAA and Junior level teammates.

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Misery loves company. Torts and Boyle were probably crying about all the abuse they took about the Red Sox and Patriots, so they want to add more Mass-holes to the locker room.

Before games, they can watch Fever Pitch together, then have Kreider go film the Devils' pre-game skate while dressed as a janitor.

All kidding aside, Kreider would add a dimension to the team they just dont have. I'm not expecting him to score goals the second he joins the team, but with his size and speed, he'll be murder on the forecheck, especially if he plays on a line with Callahan, Dubinsky or Hagelin.

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Misery loves company. Torts and Boyle were probably crying about all the abuse they took about the Red Sox and Patriots, so they want to add more Mass-holes to the locker room.

Before games, they can watch Fever Pitch together, then have Kreider go film the Devils' pre-game skate while dressed as a janitor.


All kidding aside, Kreider would add a dimension to the team they just dont have. I'm not expecting him to score goals the second he joins the team, but with his size and speed, he'll be murder on the forecheck, especially if he plays on a line with Callahan, Dubinsky or Hagelin.
LOL, Very good.

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Misery loves company. Torts and Boyle were probably crying about all the abuse they took about the Red Sox and Patriots, so they want to add more Mass-holes to the locker room.

Before games, they can watch Fever Pitch together, then have Kreider go film the Devils' pre-game skate while dressed as a janitor.

All kidding aside, Kreider would add a dimension to the team they just dont have. I'm not expecting him to score goals the second he joins the team, but with his size and speed, he'll be murder on the forecheck, especially if he plays on a line with Callahan, Dubinsky or Hagelin.
Torts picked the Giants by 10 and said that he's a Giants fan.

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02-14-2012, 11:54 AM
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Torts picked the Giants by 10 and said that he's a Giants fan.
Nice...

Didnt know that. Although there are a lot of Giants fans in NE, especially in Rhode Island.

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02-14-2012, 12:39 PM
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Nice...

Didnt know that. Although there are a lot of Giants fans in NE, especially in Rhode Island.
You got that right!

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You can't talk about Kreider without mentioning speed.

But what makes him potentially really scary, is the size.

The NHL has seen a lot of fast players. But they seldom come in 6'3, 220 pound frames. And he's not done filling out. This is a kid who very easily can check-in at 225-230 in his prime when you look at his frame.

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You can't talk about Kreider without mentioning speed.

But what makes him potentially really scary, is the size.

The NHL has seen a lot of fast players. But they seldom come in 6'3, 220 pound frames. And he's not done filling out. This is a kid who very easily can check-in at 225-230 in his prime when you look at his frame.
What you also forgot to mention is the fact that very seldom do you see a player with that kind of size and speed together with his hands and his shot as A PROSPECT.

If Kreider went the junior route, he would have put up INSANE numbers. I'm kind of thankful he went to college and got to learn how to play a more well rounded game and played against some players who were able to mature a little more physically before turning pro.

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There are two things that pique my curiousity with CK.

1. I really want to see him on the off wing.

2. I really want to see if he has pro chemistry with Stepan.

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02-15-2012, 10:26 PM
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IIRC, Kreider and Steps played on the same line in the WC.

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You can't talk about Kreider without mentioning speed.

But what makes him potentially really scary, is the size.

The NHL has seen a lot of fast players. But they seldom come in 6'3, 220 pound frames. And he's not done filling out. This is a kid who very easily can check-in at 225-230 in his prime when you look at his frame.
holy crap edge is back...

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IIRC, Kreider and Steps played on the same line in the WC.
That's why I wanna see how it looks in an NHL game.

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You can't talk about Kreider without mentioning speed.

But what makes him potentially really scary, is the size.

The NHL has seen a lot of fast players. But they seldom come in 6'3, 220 pound frames. And he's not done filling out. This is a kid who very easily can check-in at 225-230 in his prime when you look at his frame.
Mikey Rockstar, glad to see you back sir

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Mikey Rockstar, glad to see you back sir
LOL. Wow, haven't been called that in a long time.

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IIRC, Kreider and Steps played on the same line in the WC.
Stepan played with Kristo and D'Amigo.

I think Kreider played with Jenks and Morin, but could be wrong.

Either way Stepan & Kreider seem like a natural fit.

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