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TRADE: Defenseman Nicklas Grossman from Dallas for LA's 2012 2nd and MIN's 2013 3rd

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02-16-2012, 05:25 PM
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Ahh John Boruk made a good tweet. The Richards trade is done.

Traded Mike Richards for Schenn, Simmonds and Grossman.
Still not quite as good as the Forsberg trade. Didn't that pretty much become a team?

Or am I thinking of another one?

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A 2nd and 3rd ?

This trade is gross, man...

Lold at that on the main boards

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Haha... as I was reading the first part of this post Eddie came to mind, If he does a fraction of the job Van Imp did I'll be one happy camper.
Amen Bro ! Van Impe was a STUD out front !And a tremendous hip checker as well.

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I honestly don't know much about him. But from his stats, lots of blocks and hits. I'll take that.

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SWEET !!!

now all we gotta do is package Carle up in a fancy bow and mail him off to" who-cares-were, USA !!!

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By the sound of Dave Brown's description, he fits our needs. I just hope he punishes people on D, we have no one that can do that.
Not just punish people, but be able to play defense. I dont care to much about "punishing" but more about people who sit infront of the net and we just stand there and not do anything. Also would like to see some solid defensive play with a good first pass. Hard to find big solid defenders who can make a first pass.

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Still not quite as good as the Forsberg trade. Didn't that pretty much become a team?

Or am I thinking of another one?
Forsberg when all said in done was basically, Forsberg for Upshall, Parent, Timonen and Hartnell. They flipped Nashville's 1st back to Nashville for Timonen and Hartnell

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From two days ago...

http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/arch...ing-trade.html

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DETROIT -- Nicklas Grossman is more worried about his play on the ice than any trade rumors off of it.

And while it seems at times the two might be linked, the big defenseman said Tuesday they're not.

"I don't follow the media or look at anything about the trade rumors, so they don't affect me," Grossman said. "I just concentrate on the game I'm playing."

Grossman, 27, can become an unrestricted free agent in the summer. He said that he's not aware of any talk concerning a contract extension but that the situation doesn't bother him, either. Still, it's logical to assume that if he's not signed, he could be moved before the Feb. 27 NHL trade deadline, because the Stars could risk losing him for nothing in the summer.

"You can say that, but since I can't control that, I can't really worry about it," he said. "I just have to focus on what I can control."

In recent games, Grossman has had some uncharacteristic turnovers that have led to goals. In Sunday's loss to Los Angeles, he was benched and ended up playing 13:02. He averages 19:02 on the season.

"It's a problem, because I really felt I was playing well this season and I don't think I have played well in the last few games," Grossman said. "But again, all I can do is go out and play shift by shift and try to be good. That's what I can control."

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Still not quite as good as the Forsberg trade. Didn't that pretty much become a team?

Or am I thinking of another one?
You mean Forsberg for the entire Predators team?

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Guys, he's not physical. That's always been the biggest gripe from Stars fans. Had a really rough season, but wouldn't be surprised if he plays better in Philly.

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Forsberg when all said in done was basically, Forsberg for Upshall, Parent, Timonen and Hartnell. They flipped Nashville's 1st back to Nashville for Timonen and Hartnell
What did we use that 3rd rounder for?

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Philadelphia Flyers @NHLFlyers Close
TRADE: #Flyers have acquired (D) Nicklas Grossman from Dallas in exchange for a 2012 2nd rd pick(from LA) & 2013 3rd rd pick(from MIN).

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Description from Dave Brown, the Flyers' Director of Player Personnel:
  • Big guy
  • Solid stay-at-home defenseman
  • Gritty
  • Makes a good first pass
  • Not an offensive player or a powerplay man.
  • Doesn't skate like Coburn but more of a physical body

  • Height: 6' 4"
  • Weight: 230
  • Shoots: Left
  • Born: Jan 22, 1985 (Age 27)
  • Birthplace: Stockholm, Sweden

2011-12 game log: http://stars.nhl.com/club/player.htm...2&view=gamelog

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...n-from-dallas/
He was one of the guys I wanted Homer to grab. Just a good solid player. Now just sign him to a decent contract. His cap hit should not be bad. Plus we still have all our core players. I like it. Well done.

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Guys, he's not physical. That's always been the biggest gripe from Stars fans. Had a really rough season, but wouldn't be surprised if he plays better in Philly.
great he'll be the new scapegoat then i guess

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Guys, he's not physical. That's always been the biggest gripe from Stars fans. Had a really rough season, but wouldn't be surprised if he plays better in Philly.
I was reading an article (i'll have to find it) that Grossman was one of the hardest hitters, and lots of guys do not like playing against him... this was before the trade.

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Don't really know anything about him.

Hopefully he helps us

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I was reading an article (i'll have to find it) that Grossman was one of the hardest hitters, and lots of guys do not like playing against him... this was before the trade.
Don't know where you read that, but no way. Fistric is the big boomer, and fans like him a lot more because he's big and hits and Grossman is big and doesn't(often). Grossman is better positionally than Fistric, however.

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He is going to love it here. He is just what we needed. I was worried that Hal Gill was coming here and the Habs were asking a lot for him. A 2&3 for a 27 year old solid player is a win win situation. Now we can close the book on the Richards and Powe trades.

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December 10, 2011 (from Eklund):

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklun...ossman/1/40422

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More and more, I'm hearing that the guy Philly will target is Dallas Stars' defenseman Nicklas Grossman. While he's not a big name around the league, Grossman brings a solid physical presence and is pretty reliable in his own end of the ice. He can routinely give a team 16-18 minutes per game of good defensive hockey. When healthy, he's the type of player a team can put in the lineup and "forget" about.

The Flyers are far from the only NHL team -- there are at least a half-dozen other potential suitors -- that has recently contacted the Stars about the availability of the 26-year-old Grossman. He will be an unrestricted free agent after the season and currently makes a cap-friendly $1.625 million in the final year of an extension he signed two years ago.

From what I have heard, new Stars owner Tom Gaglardi and general manager Joe Nieuwendyk very much would like to re-sign Grossman before he becomes a UFA. However, if that goal proves elusive and/or if Dallas drops out of playoff contention, Grossman will be a hot name in rumors around the deadline.

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Seems like a good deal to me. Didn't give up much and he seems like a good player.

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Another odd tidbit of information.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/f...fenseman-.html

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Grossman, 27, is from Sweden. He was originally a forward before being converted in the AHL.
Are there any other cases of this being done successfully? I never heard of any.

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Good trade, we get a much needed defensive Dman, he's big and stay at home, hopefully something bigger and better is on the horizon

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Another odd tidbit of information.

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/f...fenseman-.html



Are there any other cases of this being done successfully? I never heard of any.
Yeah, pretty weird.. Usually its the other way around
edit : besides byfuglien

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I'd have to think that the original plan is to resign Grossman. Otherwise it is a somewhat steep price to pay just for a rental on the 3rd pair. But I like the deal and I hope he plays how he was last year for Dallas and that we're able to resign him cheaply.

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Dallas News, November 23, 2010

http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/2...sical-side.ece

"Nicklas Grossman shows he's a game-changer when he shows his physical side"

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This is probably hyperbole of the highest order, but it is a knee jerk emotion I felt while watching Nicklas Grossman get physical the last few games: The guy looks a lot like Derian Hatcher when he delivers a huge hit.

Maybe it's the big No. 2 on his back. Maybe it's the way the opposing forward crumples to the ice. Maybe it's just that it's been since Hatcher that this team has had a really big hitter, but Grossman just takes me back to the days when Hatcher scared people.

Now, Hatcher was one of a kind, and his ability to control a game with his physicality was second to none. But if you look closely, you really start to believe Grossman can come close to that. FSSW analyst and former Stars defenseman Craig Ludwig has it right when he says that Grossman makes hits that can change a game. It's one thing for Stephane Robidas or Steve Ott to try to ring someone up, and they often do a great job when they throw their whole body into a hit.

But mostly, they make solid, good hits.

Grossman, who is listed at 227 pounds and probably weighs more than that, can crush people. And that makes a difference in a game. It makes an even bigger difference when he crushes the right people. When Anaheim agitator and goal-scorer Corey Perry goes into the corner to play the puck and comes out woozy, it changes the game. It gets the opposition in a tizzy and tells Perry that it's going to be a tough night.

It defines Joe Nieuwendyk's theory of "hard to play against."

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