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02-17-2012, 08:30 AM
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Well, I reckon that means I'm up.

After reading a very convincing post by Sturminator HERE, I've made the decision to pick

Dave Burrows, D

There goes number 1 off my current list

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02-17-2012, 08:35 AM
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Well, I reckon that means I'm up.

After reading a very convincing post by Sturminator HERE, I've made the decision to pick

Dave Burrows, D
I admit I didn't know Dave Burrows from a hill of beans but that is great info on him and he's a very good pick at this point.

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02-17-2012, 08:47 AM
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Well, I reckon that means I'm up.

After reading a very convincing post by Sturminator HERE, I've made the decision to pick

Dave Burrows, D
Probably the most one-dimensional defenseman selected so far, but he's sure good at that one dimension (pure shut down defense)

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02-17-2012, 09:01 AM
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Ah Dwight remember to PM.

I'll take a look.
My bad big boss. FWIW, nobody PMed me this time so that must be why I forgot.

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Probably the most one-dimensional defenseman selected so far, but he's sure good at that one dimension (pure shut down defense)
True, but that was the one dimension I was looking for. I think he mixes well with Talbot.

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02-17-2012, 09:07 AM
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I'll take a guy who is taking a bit of a jump..but I'm not risking what happened with Adams..there are better offensive players left, but I like this fit best.

LW - Brian Sutter

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02-17-2012, 09:12 AM
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I'll take a guy who is taking a bit of a jump..but I'm not risking what happened with Adams..there are better offensive players left, but I like this fit best.

LW - Brian Sutter
He was an option I was looking at too.. combining offense with grit.

I'm not too worried about players falling or jumping a bit now.. we're into filling out needs for certain requirements more than before.

Good pick imo.. you always know what you're going to get from a Sutter.

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02-17-2012, 09:18 AM
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He's arguably the least weird looking Sutter as well. I would have loved him on my team, nice pick.


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02-17-2012, 09:20 AM
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Thrashers select Jean Joseph Jean Denis Pronovost,RW

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02-17-2012, 09:56 AM
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I'll take a guy who is taking a bit of a jump..but I'm not risking what happened with Adams..there are better offensive players left, but I like this fit best.

LW - Brian Sutter
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Thrashers select Jean Joseph Jean Denis Pronovost,RW
Quit making this harder on me guys!

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02-17-2012, 10:08 AM
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Svedberg is definitely, at this point, one of the worst defensive defenceman selected. The only thing going for him in his own zone is speed. I believe you have to pair him up with a big stay-at-home defenceman.


Svedberg played forward until he was 18 years of age. It's written in multiple books that his defence was affected by this.
Svedberg was not great defensively but he wasnt by any measures bad. I would say average. His defensive defencies were actually when after rushing the puck and given it to a teammate and that teammate lost it. Svedberg would be out of position with no one backing him up. It got better when undrafted came along though.

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02-17-2012, 10:56 AM
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Arrbez selects Harry Watson, LW

PMing next GM

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02-17-2012, 11:44 AM
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After this trade the Fireworks are very please to select our 2nd member of our 3rd line:


Selke Winner and noted Shadower of Gretzky, Lemieux etc...

C Dave Poulin


Pulford - Poulin - XXXXX

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02-17-2012, 12:05 PM
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After this trade the Fireworks are very please to select our 2nd member of our 3rd line:


Selke Winner and noted Shadower of Gretzky, Lemieux etc...

C Dave Poulin


Pulford - Poulin - XXXXX
Wouldn't have minded Poulin as my 3rd line C.

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02-17-2012, 12:50 PM
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Arrbez selects Harry Watson, LW

PMing next GM
Thanks for making my pick for me.



Inglewood is pleased to welcome Hall Of Fame LWer Harry Watson into the fold. I really like what Watson brings to my team in a number of areas. Offense, defense, skating, hitting, fighting, leadership, board work, clutch play...Watson was a beauty.

He was a very reliable goal scorer, placing as high as 2nd in the NHL. In the 10 year span from 1947-1956, only Richard, Howe, and Lindsay scored more goals.

He was massive for his day (6'1, 200+), but had very good speed. He was a feared fighter and bodychecker, but played a very clean game that rarely saw him take penalties. He was very effective at checking the opposition's top forwards, and had documented success in this regard against Gordie Howe. He played a prominent role on 5 Stanley Cups with 2 franchises, and was often notable for his clutch play at both ends of the rink in the post-season.

Instead of posting a massive page of quotes, I'll just link you to seventieslord's bio for him from 2010: [full bio here, it's good stuff]



Also important is that everyone can be a big happy family again now that Rod Brind'Amour will be centering my 3rd line

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02-17-2012, 12:54 PM
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NO! SACRILEGE! BRINDAMOUR MUST BE A LEFT WINGER THIS DRAFT ARRBEZ!! We, like, argued about it for like, 17 pages and stuff. duh lulzee.

(yeah your team might win this thing lol)

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02-17-2012, 12:58 PM
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arrbez , why didn't you move brindy before we argue for 68 pages , you *******!

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02-17-2012, 12:58 PM
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NO! SACRILEGE! BRINDAMOUR MUST BE A LEFT WINGER THIS DRAFT ARRBEZ!! We, like, argued about it for like, 17 pages and stuff. duh lulzee.

(yeah your team might win this thing lol)
Will peope be this pissed off when Nels Stewart ends up at center on my second line? Right from the start, that's where we planned to have him..... but we liked the flexibility that he could play wing too.

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02-17-2012, 01:02 PM
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I am proud to announce that Red Kelly is now my 4th line center ! I like his versatility and will capitalize on it !

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02-17-2012, 01:09 PM
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Swamp Devils pick the defining coach from hockey's first half of existence.

Lester Patrick, coach

Patrick is one of those rare coaches who proved he could win with any type of team in completely different eras. In the PCHA, his teams won using a hard nosed, defensive style. In the NHL, his teams won playing something closer to a run and gun style. As coach of the Rangers, Patrick had a firm grip on "1st Team All Star Coach" back when coaches were a part of All Star Teams.

Patrick was an innovator - Among other things, his influence led to creation of blue lines, penalty shots, forward passes, and changes on the fly.

A Lester Patrick coached team should be capable of playing any style of game and executing any scheme

(as a bonus, he can suit up for third string goalie if need be)
good pick.

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C/LW Jack Adams

I'm surprised he got taken as a LW again. In a 40 team draft, 16 more players become eligible to be a 2nd line LW and then he looks somewhat attractive (I really needed his skillset next to the tin man there). but with 32 teams I thought he'd end up back where he's more comfortable (and where I'd feel more comfortable with him) - 3rd or 4th line center.

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1893 Montreal AAA are proud to select C Pierre Turgeon.
excellent value!

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Garnish starts off their 3rd line by selecting, with pick 357 of the 2012 ATD, Centre Don Luce.



Some stats on Luce:

-26 Career Short Handed Goals (33rd all time in NHL history)
-1975 Masterston Trophy Winner, 1975 All Star Game Apperance
-554 Points in 894 Career Games

For more on Luce click the following link:

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/Legen...p?player=13429

I've pmed the next guy up.
great pick.

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seventies, I'm sorry I got snappy last night, but it is one of my personal pet peeves to see the intangibles of modern players blown grossly out of proportion simply because we have seen them. I was mostly not reacting to you, but when you demanded that I provide a rating of every single defenseman in the draft...well, I think I had a right to be a bit ticked about that.
I did say please

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didn't taylor have longevity for his career over propp and larmer
I wouldn't say so, no. He played 100 more games but those 100 added nothing to his career. Without a doubt their best 600, 700, 800, 900 game segments are better than his.

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I suppose I'll take power-forward LW Gord Roberts to complete my second line.

Two great bios of him:

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...&postcount=80- Nalyd's, plenty of great quotes about how well regarded he was from newspapers.


http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...postcount=606- seventieslord bio; more all-encompassing.
good pick, he is the pre-merger winger I alluded to when replying to EB's Cleghorn pick.

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He's a very solid pick at this point, but I think it's a stretch to call him a power forward based on the information we have. He's an excellent 2nd line goal scorer with grit. Maybe a "power forward light."
Yeah, I found everything that could possibly be found on the guy to substantiate a power forward game and there is some stuff, but it's not that strong. I like the John LeClair comparison. maybe a bit more robust than that.

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With pick 361 the Swamp Devils select

Pete Mahovlich, C/LW
  • 6'5 210 pounds
  • Scored 100+ points twice (5th and 6th in scoring), heavily influenced by Guy Lafleur
  • Scored 60+ points 8 times and 50+ points 10 times
  • Overall: 773 points in 884 games
  • Selected to play in the 1972 Summit Series largely because of his penalty killing
  • Finished 1st in the 1974 coach's poll for best penalty killer
  • Finished 5th in the 1976 coach's poll for best stickhandler
  • Stanley Cups in 1971, 1973, 1976, 1977

Here's Dreakmur's profile from last time: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...6&postcount=96
not sure about this one... this is your first questionable pick.

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Thrashers select Jean Joseph Jean Denis Pronovost,RW
that's my name too! Whenever I go out...

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02-17-2012, 01:13 PM
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Millionares select 1981 and 1987 Canada cup invitee, defenceman Craig Hartsburg.
He's one of the guys I was talking about when I picked Reise. A 4th in Norris, and that's it? I know he had injury issues, but that is pretty bad, especially considering he was an offensive defenseman, so it's not like he was an Adam Foote type that just didn't get recognition.

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NO! SACRILEGE! BRINDAMOUR MUST BE A LEFT WINGER THIS DRAFT ARRBEZ!! We, like, argued about it for like, 17 pages and stuff. duh lulzee.
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arrbez , why didn't you move brindy before we argue for 68 pages , you *******!


As I was telling a couple guys via PM's at the time, I thought it was important to argue that case now, instead of during a playoff series. Having a guy that most/many/some people could see as a solid LW glue guy gave me options moving forward (and who knows, could still factor in somehow).

Also, if I couldn't find a suitable LWer, having Brind'Amour there wouldn't have been the end of the world. I still think he's a fine LWer, and can play a top-6 role provided he's the 3rd best guy offensively on his line.

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02-17-2012, 01:20 PM
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I ran a report - it's done in Excel and ties are sometimes counted improperly (so a season where somebody was tied for 25th might have been excluded). With that disclaimer in mind, here's a list of all players, post-expansion with 10+ years as a top 25 scorer.

Ten times: Sundin, Perreault, Ratelle, Turgeon, Trottier
Eleven times: Lemieux, Messier, Hull Robitaille, Hawerchuk
Twelve times: Esposito, Oates, Francis
Thirteen times: Yzerman, Jagr
Fourteen times: Sakic
Sixteen times: Dionne
Eighteen times: Gretzky

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02-17-2012, 01:21 PM
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With pick number 368, jkrx selects a player from the pre-merger days who was a fairly strong scorer, made it to 10 consecutive PCHA All-Star teams, won five league championships, does just about everything well, and is one of my personal favourites, from Springford, Ontario, right winger..

Edward Cole "Eddie" Oatman!



seventies' bio on Oatman has some excellent information about this pre-merger star.

I'll PM the next GM.

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I'll take a guy who is taking a bit of a jump..but I'm not risking what happened with Adams..there are better offensive players left, but I like this fit best.

LW - Brian Sutter
I really like Sutter as a player because I had him last year(I got him at 409) but I still think it's too early for him. I think I got good value for him last year, but I think he should go somewhere around 380-390.

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02-17-2012, 01:23 PM
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I am proud to announce that Red Kelly is now my 4th line center ! I like his versatility and will capitalize on it !
That would be silly, but you do have a very variable option to use him at forward on the PK

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