Thanks, I'll try them.
I've been shopping for new gloves for quite a while, would buy a high end pair like vapor x60 or, 4-roll pro. I realized checking out the 4-roll's (which felt very familiar) that they fit/felt almost exactly like my old ones just with newer palms (My old ones have holes & are getting dark & 'crunchy', the rest of the glove is in great shape, it even has 'real' leather

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