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02-17-2012, 05:42 PM
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Still don't know how I'd feel about it. On one hand Nash would be awesome, but 7.8 awesome I still don't know. We'd have no semblance of cap flexibility.

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02-17-2012, 05:48 PM
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Dubinsky, McIlrath, Miller, 1st 2nd

This is fair to me.
I think I would be inclined to keep McIlrath over Erixon but I'd go for this either way. We just need to figure out our 2013 summer RFA clusterfudge.

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02-17-2012, 05:53 PM
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Stay the course.

The window has just opened on us this year. Why make such an impactful move when the window has just opened. Stay the course this year and make what ever moves neccessary next year.

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02-17-2012, 05:57 PM
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Guys, you all read that wrong.


80% chance Dubi is traded by the deadline*







*#notintendedtobeafactualstatement
Now, #Idonthavethefacttobackthisup but I think Bucci is actually 80% clown

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02-17-2012, 06:06 PM
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We can jump all over on what we think Slats will do. But there is no doubt in my mind that he will be getting huge imput from Torts on exactly what he thinks he needs to put his team in a position to win this year.

IF Nash or Carter ends up in a Ranger jersey, I believe Torts would have signed off on this..

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02-17-2012, 06:08 PM
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Finally, an epic song to commemorate the Rick Nash trade rumors.



So . . . much . . . awesome . . .

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02-17-2012, 06:14 PM
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I think I would be inclined to keep McIlrath over Erixon but I'd go for this either way. We just need to figure out our 2013 summer RFA clusterfudge.


I feel the opposite way; at this point, I'd much rather keep Erixon over McIlrath. I know McIlrath has the physical advantage, but other than that I believe Erixon to be better in most every other aspect. I know we'd all like to have that crease-clearing, nasty defenseman, but it seems to me that Erixon is much more promising at this point.


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02-17-2012, 06:14 PM
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Even if you just trade Dubi and prospect for him you end up jeopardizing resigning the real core of our team in Stepan mdz mcd. I refuse to believe that we would take on another rediculous contract. Haven't we learned you cannot mortgage away your future for success? We are actually seeing our team play te best hockey in years because of youth and development

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02-17-2012, 06:16 PM
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I'm 50/50 on this. Just dont give up Krieder and I will be happy.

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02-17-2012, 06:18 PM
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That video is so great.

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02-17-2012, 06:20 PM
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I'm 50/50 on this. Just dont give up Krieder and I will be happy.


Not so sure how happy you'd be in a couple years when some of the core guys hit free agency & that $7.8M cap hit start to become a potential cap impediment.

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02-17-2012, 06:23 PM
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McKenzie said that the Colombus wants Del Zotto in a trade package.
I rather add Carter instead of Nash. He has a lower cap hit and you can probably get him for draft picks and B level prospects.


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What about Zuccarello being included in a package? That could be an interesting addition. Columbus can afford to give him a lot of ice time, so there is a good chance he will thrive over here

I'm fine with letting go one of Erixon, McIlrath, Thomas or JT Miller in addition to Dubinsky or Anisimov and a 1st, but a big NO to McDonagh. All of those players are nice prospects, but I doubt they will ever have as big an impact as Nash would.

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I just can't get past his cap hit. For that reason I say no.

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02-17-2012, 06:27 PM
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What about Zuccarello being included in a package? That could be an interesting addition. Columbus can afford to give him a lot of ice time, so there is a good chance he will thrive over here

I'm fine with letting go one of Erixon, McIlrath, Thomas or JT Miller in addition to Dubinsky or Anisimov and a 1st, but a big NO to McDonagh. All of those players are nice prospects, but I doubt they will ever have as big an impact as Nash would.
Your right none of them will have a nearly 8 million dollar impact on the books for a bunch of years like Nash will.

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02-17-2012, 06:29 PM
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Finally, an epic song to commemorate the Rick Nash trade rumors.



So . . . much . . . awesome . . .
That. Was. Awesome.

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What about Zuccarello being included in a package? That could be an interesting addition. Columbus can afford to give him a lot of ice time, so there is a good chance he will thrive over here

I'm fine with letting go one of Erixon, McIlrath, Thomas or JT Miller in addition to Dubinsky or Anisimov and a 1st, but a big NO to McDonagh. All of those players are nice prospects, but I doubt they will ever have as big an impact as Nash would.

I can't imagine Columbus having much interest in Zuccarello. I'm curious as to why you think they would want him.


Also, do you really want to hang another almost $8 million on the cap for the next 6 years? I know that Nash is a very good player, but it seems like that would create some pretty serious cap problems in the next couple of years. I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I don't think Nash is the right option for this team at this point in time, if for no other reason than his atrocious contract.

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McKenzie said that the Colombus wants Del Zotto in a trade package.
I don't think Sather is going to part with MDZ, although I wouldn't rule it out completely. I guess it hinders on whether or not he believes MDZ can maintain this kind of level of play long term.

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Now, #Idonthavethefacttobackthisup but I think Bucci is actually 80% clown
Yeah, pretty much.

It's gotten better but you still have a lot of folks who chase the silver bullet. The idea that that one player is going to bring you the cup. Last I saw, Rick Nash in no way resembles Mark Messier.

His own numbers are decent....but that's about it.

The Jacket have been above .500 and in the playoffs once in Nash's tenure.

Nash has never scored 80 points in a season.

In his playoff career he has 1 goal and 3 points.

He's made a number of statements that indicate he's comfortable in a small market with less pressure

He's a nice physical package, but often does not play up to his size and strength.

His cap hit is substantial. The price to get him would be high.

To many Rangers fans he'd be a frustrating player to watch and could become a whipping boy pretty quickly. For all these reasons and more I would be shocked out of my flip flops if the Rangers acquired him.

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I can't imagine Columbus having much interest in Zuccarello. I'm curious as to why you think they would want him.


Also, do you really want to hang another almost $8 million on the cap for the next 6 years? I know that Nash is a very good player, but it seems like that would create some pretty serious cap problems in the next couple of years. I know I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I don't think Nash is the right option for this team at this point in time, if for no other reason than his atrocious contract.
What would they have to lose with Zuccarello? If he can't crack in the NHL then oh well. He does have upside though

Honestly, I'm not that interested in Nash, but I'm not the one who's ultimately going to decide if he ends up here or not. If he does though, I'd rather see those players go than Kreider, MDZ or McDonagh (god forbid)

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02-17-2012, 06:36 PM
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I think we could always get out from the Gabby contract after next season is over and we have won 2 Cups ! He might even be movable at the draft...after we have won the Cup . Either way...he will always be wanted somewhere as a gunslinger . I personally would rather have Nash then him moving forward ...

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What would they have to lose with Zuccarello? If he can't crack in the NHL then oh well. He does have upside though

I don't think that's how a GM would approach the situation, though. If I'm Howson, I want quality players -- players with demonstrated quality, either as a regular NHL player or a prospect. I don't think Zuccarello really fits in either of those categories. I can't imagine Howson approaching a trade from the perspective of 'well, I'll take this guy, what do I have to lose?" Zuccarello's going to be 25 in September, and although that's not old, it's not exactly prospect territory either.


Maybe you're right, though, and Zuccarello is tossed into the deal, but I can't see any significant reason why Columbus would actively seek him out as part of the trade.

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I can't wait till this nonsense is over. Let him go anywhere but here with his salary up to the roof.

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It seems to me that Rick Nash is the new representative of "Shiny New Toy Syndrome", just like Bobby Ryan was a few months back. I think that mentality and tendency to think that one more acquisition could lead to a Cup is causing some people to overlook some pretty significant potential downside to a Nash trade.

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I would rather take my chances with Paraise over the summer and if that does not work out I bet you Nash is still on Columbus and we can take our chances next year at the trade deadline

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