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02-18-2012, 02:43 PM
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Gomez isn't the problem, the NHL is

Scott Gomez never lost his game, it just hasn't translated to the new NHL. His best years (statistically) were pre-lockout and that year where they called everything right after it. both styles of play, slow and wide-open, rewarded speedy playmaking centers (and creating rebounds by bouncing the puck off the goalies chest). unfortunately for Gomez, that no longer works, or at least not for him. he should be moved to a different role, either PMD or RW. while he may not be able to stand up physically to the first role, his game would be suited to it; LW would keep the puck to the outside when gaining the zone and put him in a playmaker role, wheras putting him on the right wing would force him to shoot more.

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Did you just suggest converting gomez to defense?

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Did you just suggest converting gomez to defense?
Well, he's a standup comedian and he wants to try out his new material on us.

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Are you freaking serious?! Are you kidding me?

This is enough. Gomez is underperforming - that's that. Enough of these shenanigans.

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OP doesn't understand. He is right in saying that Gomez isn't to blame, but he fails to understand why. The problem is not Gomez, the problem stems from the laws of physics. If the laws of physics were different in a way that would make Gomez better, Gomez would be better. It's so obvious.

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Gomez needs to find creativity - a little too predictable
In order to do that i think he needs to get a prescription for Glaucoma

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Sorry but that makes little to no sense. Gomez's game has suffered because of Gomez not the way the game is played these days.

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Sorry but that makes little to no sense. Gomez's game has suffered because of Gomez not the way the game is played these days.
I think Gomez play has suffered because there are far more mobile dmen now than there were then. Also, the ones who arent know how to close the amount of space and Gomez doesnt drive the net, he plays the parimeter.

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unfortunately for Gomez, that no longer works, or at least not for him. he should be moved to a different role, either PMD or RW. while he may not be able to stand up physically to the first role, his game would be suited to it

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There was a play last night where gomez had the puck at the side of the net and had the time and space to take it to the front. Instead, he just stood at the side of the net, looking for someone to dish to, and the play turned out to be harmless.

I just dont know what he's thinking alot of times.

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I just dont know what he's thinking alot of times.
You know something. Neither does he.

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I think it's society.

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Did you just suggest converting gomez to defense?
Wait, maybe he's on the right tracks here. Gomez has demonstrated an uncanny ability to be responsible for the puck not going into the net. Get some goalie pads on him, what's the worst that could happen!?

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I actually think moving Gomez to D for a few games would be hilariously entertaining. Who knows, maybe he'll turn into Rafalski. They look similarly stupid.

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Gomez' first year in NY was his second best statistically speaking. If there was any truth to your theory he'd have been straight up awful starting in the 06-07 season, but that's not the case.

2010-2011 was his first truly bad season. Until then, he wasn't really bad per se. He just clearly wasn't worth the money he was making. He'll always be compared to the salary he doesn't deserve, but that's not really his fault in my opinion.

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Scott Gomez never lost his game, it just hasn't translated to the new NHL. His best years (statistically) were pre-lockout and that year where they called everything right after it. both styles of play, slow and wide-open, rewarded speedy playmaking centers (and creating rebounds by bouncing the puck off the goalies chest). unfortunately for Gomez, that no longer works, or at least not for him. he should be moved to a different role, either PMD or RW. while he may not be able to stand up physically to the first role, his game would be suited to it; LW would keep the puck to the outside when gaining the zone and put him in a playmaker role, wheras putting him on the right wing would force him to shoot more.
statistically Gomez's best years were immediately following the lockout.

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I actually think moving Gomez to D for a few games would be hilariously entertaining. Who knows, maybe he'll turn into Rafalski. They look similarly stupid.
And immensely rewarding. Betcha we'd be in place for that top pick by the the middle of March.

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I'm actually curious to see how Gomez would fare as a defenseman, just not the NHL level, maybe in the AHL if management sends him down after the season.

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Wait, maybe he's on the right tracks here. Gomez has demonstrated an uncanny ability to be responsible for the puck not going into the net. Get some goalie pads on him, what's the worst that could happen!?
He can't be worse than Bout-d'ail...

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It's society's fault Gomez sucks.

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It's society's fault Gomez sucks.
Wait, I thought it was Gomez' fault society sucks?

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during his suckage, how much time has he spent with Gio?

It seems like they were doing great with Patches last year until the incident and then ever since, Gio and Pleks ended up playing together.

Not saying Gomez's effectiveness has been great, but I think it's a mix of a lot of things. Honestly he's had terrible shooting luck. I think that's starting to change.

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02-18-2012, 04:56 PM
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I think everyone involved is way past trying to figure out what the problem is with Gomez and at the point where they need to focus on creative ways to get rid of him with the least impact to the organization going forward. This has been an ugly situation for everyone involved and it's time to move past it, not dwell on it.

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