Still don't understand why all our coaches have hardons for Darche.
This. Maybe Darche is getting showcased??
Also, not as many dumb line juggling. Cunney's been keeping our best line together for some time now, which has help cement chemistry.
But the fact that they score more goals is also much more entertaining. But our D is pretty bad. But like someone mentioned, having Campoli and Kaberle playing together...yeesh.
The Habs under RC have a better offensive output but defensive zone coverage is a complete disaster, its understandable to a certain extent since we have Campoli and Kaberle in the back end. We were much more solid in the defensive zone under Martin.
Yeah, the defense I think has much more to do with the personnel itself, than anything else. You have essentially 3 inexperienced d-men in diaz, weber, and emelin... although emelin has made good strides, your #1 d-man has not played a game, and campoli has been sub-par.... kaberle also has trouble infront of the net.
I think Cunney's main positive vs Martin is his ACCOUNTABILITY. Martin never dared to bench Gomez.
Just because Cunneyworth SAYS there's accountability doesn't mean there actually is.
Kaberle creates a turnover in the neutral zone, gives the puck to Staal, then gets phaneufed (à la Eller) by him. Guess who's on the ice the next shift?
Subban plays 20+ mins one game, and he's watching the next game from the pressbox?
Eller is benched for over half a game, but his cold butt is chosen for the shootout?
Campoli... well, he's Campoli. 'nuff said.
In the end, though, the team has been more competitive lately. Whether it's because or despite RC's coaching is irrelevant. Players seem to have taken matters in their own hands. Winning is all that matters to them.
Just because Cunneyworth SAYS there's accountability doesn't mean there actually is.
Kaberle creates a turnover in the neutral zone, gives the puck to Staal, then gets phaneufed (à la Eller) by him. Guess who's on the ice the next shift?
Subban plays 20+ mins one game, and he's watching the next game from the pressbox?
Eller is benched for over half a game, but his cold butt is chosen for the shootout?
Campoli... well, he's Campoli. 'nuff said.
In the end, though, the team has been more competitive lately. Whether it's because or despite RC's coaching is irrelevant. Players seem to have taken matters in their own hands. Winning is all that matters to them.
You don't seem to understand. Kaberle as bad as he is, is more important than Kaberle, Campoli, Weber, Diaz. You're going to bench him and have Campoli take his spot? That's retarded.
As far as Eller, I don't see an issue with him being benched. It was a dumb penalty and a penalty he takes them far too often.
The subban thing was one frigging game 2 months ago and it made him a better player.
Gomez's ice time has been cut. Gill's icetime had been cut. Cammy's had been cut. You'd never see that from Martin.
Also, as someone has said before, the defensive issues have to do moreso with the personnel.
Also, not as many dumb line juggling. Cunney's been keeping our best line together for some time now, which has help cement chemistry.
But the fact that they score more goals is also much more entertaining. But our D is pretty bad. But like someone mentioned, having Campoli and Kaberle playing together...yeesh.
I don't think so. He's getting the ice-time because he is deserving it by the way he plays.
Still don't understand why all our coaches have hardons for Darche.
I will laugh so hard if Gauthier trades him at the deadline for a 2nd or 3rd round pick because a team that is contending for the Cup needed a guy like Darche on their bottom six, and were impressed with his stretch over the last two weeks.
On the topic at hand, it looks like the team is much more offensive, more physical and plays with more grit and heart. However when that third period comes along, this team still looks rather lazy coming out of the gate.
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Cunneyworth was thrown into an unfair situation where he was destined to fail and yet, through all the bs, he managed to block out the distractions and is starting to really thrive as coach. I love that he holds players accountable and give the time to players that actually deserve the ice time. Even the power play is starting to climb out of the basement now. I'd keep this guy. I like what I see.
That's because you don't understand the subtleties and technical aspects of hockey.
you coulda said that another way so that ppl stop the meme...
it's as simple as darche always does what he should. he doesn't have much in the way of anything but he's not deficient in anything either. he brings what you expect of a vet and is the last one who should be blamed for him getting minutes. he should be on the fourth line, or as a 13th man, but if he ever rises above that it's because the 'better' players aren't doing what needs to be done.
If by better lately, you mean playing against teams that don't show up, yeah.
The amount of missed assignments on D is mind-boggling. Anybody who thinks we can make/hopes we make the playoffs is in for a rude awakening.
Maybe we get lucky and sneak by then get throttled by any team in the first round. The defense is just ridiculously bad.
The Habs have arguably the worst defensive corps in the league yet you're pinning that on Cunney?
There are only 3 dmen on the roster that can play any kind of defense. Campoli, Weber, Diaz, Kaberle are all offensive minded dmen who are terrible in their own end. They were terrible with Martin as well. They didn't just start sucking once Cunney got there.
The Habs have arguably the worst defensive corps in the league yet you're pinning that on Cunney?
There are only 3 dmen on the roster that can play any kind of defense. Campoli, Weber, Diaz, Kaberle are all offensive minded dmen who are terrible in their own end. They were terrible with Martin as well. They didn't just start sucking once Cunney got there.
The Habs have arguably the worst defensive corps in the league yet you're pinning that on Cunney?
There are only 3 dmen on the roster that can play any kind of defense. Campoli, Weber, Diaz, Kaberle are all offensive minded dmen who are terrible in their own end. They were terrible with Martin as well. They didn't just start sucking once Cunney got there.
The Habs have a weak d-corp no doubt about it, but it went from bad to worse once JM got fired and was replaced with RC. At least JM's system reduced the number of defensive gaffes in our own zone. With RC, our defensive zone coverage is a mess.
They haven't been very good under either, but I find the team more entertaining to watch with Cunneyworth. There have been quite a few bad games (particularly third-period choke jobs), but a lot more exciting ones than with Martin.
Even then, the Habs fitted Cunneyworth(less) better than they did JM.
You don't seem to understand. Kaberle as bad as he is, is more important than Kaberle, Campoli, Weber, Diaz. You're going to bench him and have Campoli take his spot? That's retarded.
As far as Eller, I don't see an issue with him being benched. It was a dumb penalty and a penalty he takes them far too often.
The subban thing was one frigging game 2 months ago and it made him a better player.
Gomez's ice time has been cut. Gill's icetime had been cut. Cammy's had been cut. You'd never see that from Martin.
Also, as someone has said before, the defensive issues have to do moreso with the personnel.
THAT is accountability.
Besides, it's friggin Kaberle youre talking about here not Lidstrom...
To be honest...how could they be worse? Worse bench management I have ever seen. You could count on at least one or two many man on the ice penalties per game. The epic third period collapse. Yes it is happening under Cunney also but at least we are attacking and not sitting back waiting for it to happen.
RC is already showing he is better than Martin but still makes many rookie mistakes. Listening to the guys talk they are much happier with the new coach and things can improve whereas with martin it was the same **** everynight until someone got punished.
