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02-18-2012, 04:38 PM
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BOB, JVR, Jody Shelley

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D. Roloson, Steve Downie, and Pavel Kubina


Its apparent the FLyers can't go into the playoffs with Bryz and Bob and nobody is taking Bryz's contract. Flyers are going to need a better back up than BOB.

And Roloson by early round 1 wont be the back up he'll be the #1 guy in philly

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02-18-2012, 04:42 PM
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What a god awful trade for the Flyers... JVR is worth more than all 3 Tampa assets put together. And we already tried the Downie experiment, it didn't work. Guy is a headcase.

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02-18-2012, 04:45 PM
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What a god awful trade for the Flyers... JVR is worth more than all 3 Tampa assets put together. And we already tried the Downie experiment, it didn't work. Guy is a headcase.
How many goals does JVR have? 11? He had a very good playoff run last year but then again so did Bergenheim and Leino.

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lol wow... Steve Y would be a wizard if he pulled this off..

nothing says fixing goaltending problems like Rolly haha

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You pay for potential. You can't just put 3 crappy/mediocre assets together and think they will net you a 1st round pick, with the potential for 30-40 goal seasons, a young goaltender with #1 potential and a perrenial 20 goal scorer in Jody Shelley.

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This has to be a TB fan.

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Guy is a headcase.
You need to watch some TBL games, he's nothing like he used to be as far as temper, etc.

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I'd rather have Bob than Roloson at this point. I'd also rather have JVR than Downie. Kubina isn't enough incentive to downgrade at other places in the lineup.

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You pay for potential. You can't just put 3 crappy/mediocre assets together and think they will net you a 1st round pick, with the potential for 30-40 goal seasons, a young goaltender with #1 potential and a perrenial 20 goal scorer in Jody Shelley.
BOB isnt a #1. If he is, just like Varmalov in Colorado, then your team sucks.

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You need to watch some TBL games, he's nothing like he used to be as far as temper, etc.
Exactly, Downie makes little money compared to other players around the league that are top 6 and he's gritty. He's a gamer and as a Devils fan i'd love to have him on my team. I guess maybe I overvalue him but I think he's a difference maker.

JVR to me if he isnt scoring he's pretty useless.

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You need to watch some TBL games, he's nothing like he used to be as far as temper, etc.
But would probably go back to being such on the Flyers - no offense to the guy (who really has cleaned up his act yet remained a tough and effective player).


Also, yeah, this is a completely unreasonable trade. Roloson's value is quite low, I don't think Downie is going anywhere (nor do I think the Lightning want Shelley), and even though JVR has had some trouble this season with injury, I don't think the Flyers really will consider trading him without getting a similar young player with a lot of potential.

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But would probably go back to being such on the Flyers - no offense to the guy (who really has cleaned up his act yet remained a tough and effective player).


Also, yeah, this is a completely unreasonable trade.
just for this year going into the playoff does it make the Flyers better? Add Kubina and Downie and have Roloson as a backup if and when Bryz emplodes. I saw yes, and the Flyers have an opportunity to win a cup this year. It would also free up some future cap space so they could sign possibly Suter in the off season especially if they get a medical cap clearance for Pronger if he retires from his concussions.

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02-18-2012, 04:59 PM
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just for this year going into the playoff does it make the Flyers better? Add Kubina and Downie and have Roloson as a backup if and when Bryz emplodes. I saw yes, and the Flyers have an opportunity to win a cup this year. It would also free up some future cap space so they could sign possibly Suter in the off season especially if they get a medical cap clearance for Pronger if he retires from his concussions.
I just don't think the Flyers sacrifice that much for a slightly improved team this year.

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How many goals does JVR have? 11? He had a very good playoff run last year but then again so did Bergenheim and Leino.
He just missed a month with a concussion and has been playing with an injured hip. He hasn't had a good season, but let's not pretend it's because he can't play.

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BOB isnt a #1. If he is, just like Varmalov in Colorado, then your team sucks.
Fine. Still doesn't mean its a good idea to move JVR for someone like Roloson. Gotta know when to fold 'em.

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He just missed a month with a concussion and has been playing with an injured hip. He hasn't had a good season, but let's not pretend it's because he can't play.
JVR can play and he's a 25 goal scorer for sure but lets not pretend he's Steven Stamkos. And like I said if JVR isnt scoring what else does he do? He isnt good in his own end and he can't hit and isnt much of a leader.

Good player but he isnt a superstar.

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Fine. Still doesn't mean its a good idea to move JVR for someone like Roloson. Gotta know when to fold 'em.
You get Pavel Kubina for the playoff run and Steve Downie who to me, isnt that much of a worse player than JVR.

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02-18-2012, 05:03 PM
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BOB, JVR, Jody Shelley

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D. Roloson, Steve Downie, and Pavel Kubina


Its apparent the FLyers can't go into the playoffs with Bryz and Bob and nobody is taking Bryz's contract. Flyers are going to need a better back up than BOB.

And Roloson by early round 1 wont be the back up he'll be the #1 guy in philly
must be a joke lol

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After today, I don't think any of the Flyers goalies are true #1s so we'll sit and wait for the offseason for a goalie - and Downie isn't going anywhere. I might take JVR but he reminds me too much of Renberg.

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Someone on the Tampa forum put it the right way

"Yzerman is a jedi, not a mob boss."

No way this happens.

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02-18-2012, 05:11 PM
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I've always wanted Downie back in Philly. But as for your trade, no. Kubina and Roloson are nothing more than useless throw ins.

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You pay for potential. You can't just put 3 crappy/mediocre assets together and think they will net you a 1st round pick, with the potential for 30-40 goal seasons, a young goaltender with #1 potential and a perrenial 20 goal scorer in Jody Shelley.
Uhh...

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