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02-17-2012, 02:19 PM
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2012 Free Agency & 2012-13 Payroll/Contract Limit

47 players (currently signed or qualified RFAs) will count against the 50 contract limit.

Projected NHL Roster
1. Jagr, Jaromir
2. Whitney, Ray
3. Goligoski, Alex
4. Eriksson, Loui
5. Morrow, Brenden
6. Roy, Derek
7. Lehtonen, Kari
8. Ryder, Michael
9. Robidas, Stephane
10. Daley, Trevor
11. Fiddler, Vernon
12. Rome, Aaron
13. Fistric, Mark
14. Nystrom, Eric
15. Larsen, Philip
16. Dillon, Brenden
17. Wandell, Tom
18. Vincour, Tomas
19. Eakin, Cody
20. Bachman, Richard
21. Garbutt, Ryan
22. Sceviour, Colten
23. Benn, Jamie*

*Qualified RFA with no contract

Projected AHL/ECHL Roster + European's 20 years old or older
24. Glennie, Scott
25. Oleksiak, Jamie
26. Campbell, Jack
27. Nihlstorp, Christopher
28. Chiasson, Alex
29. Smith, Reilly
30. Smith, Austin
31. Klingberg, John
32. Nemeth, Patrik
33. Beskorowany, Tyler
34. Jokipakka, Jyrki
35. Petersen, Toby
36. Fortunus, Maxime
37. Roussel, Antoine
38. Sloan, Tyler
39. Gazdic Luke
40. Fraser, Matt
41. Wathier, Francis
42. Tousignant, Mathieu
43. Coyle, Jace
44. King, Tristan
45. Labrie, Hubert
46. Morin, Travis
47. Benn, Jordie*

*Qualified RFA with no contract

Entry-Level Slide Eligible
Bystrom, Ludwig
Faksa, Radek
Lagace, Max
Molin, Emil
Ritchie, Brett
Stransky, Matej
Vance, Troy

ForwardsCap Hit
Jagr, Jaromir$4,550,000
Whitney, Ray$4,500,000
Eriksson, Loui$4,250,000
Morrow, Brenden$4,100,000
Roy, Derek$4,000,000
Ryder, Michael$3,500,000
Fiddler, Vernon$1,800,000
Nystrom, Eric$1,400,000
Wandell, Tom$892,500
Vincour, Tomas$800,000
Eakin, Cody$637,778
Garbutt, Ryan$575,000
Sceviour, Colton$525,000

DefensemenCap Hit
Goligoski, Alex$4,600,000
Daley, Trevor$3,300,000
Robidas, Stephane$3,300,000
Rome, Aaron$1,500,000
Fistric, Mark$1,475,000
Larsen, Philip$1,025,000
Dillon, Brenden$900,000

GoaltendersCap Hit
Lehtonen, Kari$3,550,000
Bachman, Richard$625,000

BuyoutCap Hit
Godard, Eric$258,333

Roster Size22
Cap Payroll$52,063,611


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02-17-2012, 02:23 PM
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IMO, these RFAs are on the chopping block:

Esposito, Angelo
Stefanovich, Mikhail
Hauswirth, Jake
Neal, Michael
Garbutt, Ryan

I think there is no chance Stefanovich, Hauswirth, or Neal are back. I honestly think Esposito and Garbutt have a chance.

They also should/could add:

Chiasson, Alex
Smith, Austin
Smith, Reilly
Theriau, Alex

Also, IMO, Godard is a very good candidate for a buyout. His 2012-13 hit would only be $258,333, and the following season would be $233,333.

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yeah i think they should buyout Godard. He isnt going to be of any use whatsoever and who knows they may end up needing the flexibility of an open contract slot. Better safe than sorry, imo.

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02-17-2012, 02:38 PM
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I'd like to see Dvorak and Burish return for a similar deal to what they have now, maybe a very small raise.

All the other UFAs can go.

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02-17-2012, 02:56 PM
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I think Garbutt will be back.

Chiasson may (and should) stay another year at BU. Reilly Smith will probably also stay at school.
Austin Smith will be in the AHL.
I'd assume Theriau will also be in the AHL.
Oleksiak may also be in the AHL.

Klingberg and Nemeth should be in the AHL (or NHL if Nemeth proves worthy, might have to fight Oleksiak for it)

Godard could probably fetch a 7th in a trade... or just waive him, I'm sure Pittsburgh would love him back for a year...

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I seriously doubt Dallas wants Chaisson to stay after everything that's happened at BU this season. As for Reilly Smith, I'm not sure but again I have to believe they'd rather have these guys playing for them than playing for their college clubs. At this point in time the AHL is a step up and a challenge they may believe he's ready for. I don't think they'll push hard but I imagine they'll encourage him to sign.

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Well, he is only a junior this year. If he's intent on graduating, he should stay, if not, to the AHL/NHL with him too. I don't see Joe pushing to have guys leave college early no matter the circumstances.

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Chiasson, Nemeth, Oleksiak, Theriau and Austin Smith to the AHL next season for sure, possibly Reilly Smith as well (+ Campbell?)

Like Garbutt's call-up. Training with the big club will give the staff a better idea of whether he deserves a contract next season

Blimey, it'll be a young AHL roster next season

R.Smith, A.Smith, Chiasson, Glennie, Fraser, Garbutt, Gazdic, Morin, Sceviour, Esposito, who cares
Dillon, Jordie Benn, Oleksiak, Nemeth, Labrie/Theriau/Coyle, Lukowich, Fortunus
Besko, Campbell

Lukowich the odd one out

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I think Garbutt will be back.

Chiasson may (and should) stay another year at BU. Reilly Smith will probably also stay at school.
Austin Smith will be in the AHL.
I'd assume Theriau will also be in the AHL.
Oleksiak may also be in the AHL.

Klingberg and Nemeth should be in the AHL (or NHL if Nemeth proves worthy, might have to fight Oleksiak for it)

Godard could probably fetch a 7th in a trade... or just waive him, I'm sure Pittsburgh would love him back for a year...

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Pretty sure Reilly Smith will be in the AHL. Austin of course, Nemeth definitely will be, Klingberg almost assuredly will stay in Europe. Not sure on Chiasson.

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Campbell's only other destination would be the ECHL, and I doubt he goes there. He'll be splitting time with Besko next year.

I don't think Chiasson should spend another year at BU. Any other college, and maybe, but not with everything that's happened recently.

Anyone willing to try and throw together an AHL roster for next year?

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I would say there's around an 80-90% chance that Chiasson is in Cedar Park. Very likely.

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Campbell's only other destination would be the ECHL, and I doubt he goes there. He'll be splitting time with Besko next year.

I don't think Chiasson should spend another year at BU. Any other college, and maybe, but not with everything that's happened recently.

Anyone willing to try and throw together an AHL roster for next year?
Fraser-Morin-Sawada
R Smith-Glennie-Sceviour
Chiasson-Garbutt-A Smith
Gazdic-Esposito-Tousignant
Godard

Dillon-Lukowich
Nemeth-Oleksiak
Jo Benn-Fortunus
Labrie/Theriau/Coyle

Beskorowany-Campbell (50/50)

or something?

Assuming no call ups for Fraser, Dillon, Jordie Benn etc.

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Anyone willing to try and throw together an AHL roster for next year?
NHL

Eriksson-Jamie Benn-?????
Morrow-Ribeiro-Ryder
Nystrom-Fiddler-Ott
?????-Wandell-Vincour
?????/?????

Goligoski-Larsen
Fistric-Daley
Pardy-Robidas
?????

Lehtonen
Bachman

AHL

Fraser-Morin-Chiasson
R. Smith-Glennie-Sceviour
Garbutt-Esposito-A. Smith
Gazdic-Tousignant-AHL Contract
AHL Contract

Oleksiak-Lukowich or Fortunus
Dillon-Nemeth
Jordie Benn-Labrie
AHL Contract

Beskorowany/Campbell

ECHL: Coyle, King

Europe: Klingberg

Buyout: Godard

No Qualifying Offer: Hauswirth, Neal, Stefanovich

I've revised my opinion on Theriau. If he an his agent are smart, they don't sign with Dallas. His chances on this team aren't very good. Smart move is to go back in the draft, probably not get selected, and then sign as a FA.

This puts Dallas at 45 contracts (needing to sign 5 for the NHL).

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Oh yeah ... and instead of making assumptions about trades .... the one assumption I made was no trade would make the team worse. So ... if a guy like Ott, Ribs, or Robidas is traded, I assumed at least one player coming back in the deal would replace them next year.

It would also be nice to see Sceviour possibly take a 4th line spot. Then Dallas could retain one of Wathier or Sawada for Texas. With Lukowich vs. Fortunus, I didn't want to just assume at 35 years old Brad was up for another year. If he's not, I could see them hanging on to Fortunus so they aren't too young on D.

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Yeah, I think this could very well be Lukowich's last year with the organization. His main purpose was to mentor Larsen and that has been fulfilled.

I'd expect Sceviour to take Petersen's NHL roster spot.

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This little exercise to figure out contract numbers also made me realize they really need to shake something up with a trade or 3 or 5. If they don't make any trades, I could totally see this team scoffing at some of the lesser Top 6 forwards in free agency contract demands (as they probably should) .... but we'd end up with the exact same uninspired Top 6 as this year (possibly with even Ott in the mix).

I'm fine, even happy, with Ott as soldering along in the Bottom 6, but they need some changes in the Top 6.

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This little exercise to figure out contract numbers also made me realize they really need to shake something up with a trade or 3 or 5. If they don't make any trades, I could totally see this team scoffing at some of the lesser Top 6 forwards in free agency contract demands (as they probably should) .... but we'd end up with the exact same uninspired Top 6 as this year (possibly with even Ott in the mix).

I'm fine, even happy, with Ott as soldering along in the Bottom 6, but they need some changes in the Top 6.
Bring on Carters 10 year contract bring it the **** on

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In his postgame interview the other night Nieuwendyk more than implied that college players (plural) would be in Austin next year. He also said that Nemeth would probably be there as well. I'm expecting all of Nemeth, R. Smith, A. Smith, and Chiasson to be baby Stars next season. To be honest, I don't think Nemeth spends more than one full season there either. The Texas Stars could be a very interesting team to watch as the roster is turned over and infused with more Stars prospects.

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The baby stars look like theyre gonna be pretty killer to watch next year

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We definitely need a new top 6 forward for next season, whether it comes from within or outside. Looking at available free agents seems to be about 7-10 who could fill that role. Parise and Semin would be the most expensive targets, and the rest are old/oft-injured/fringe second liners.

Could we see Glennie take that role? Texas is going to get a lot of new players, and I can't imagine that none from this year will make the team in 2013.

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He's like the anti-Neal. Non-existent for the first half, shows up strong in the second. And he seems to have an insane playmaking ability opposed to Neal's shot.

I think he should get a chance.

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Garbutt looked pretty comfortable out there last night. Justvsayin'.

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Yep. I think he should get another chance to prove it wasn't just adrenaline pumping.

If he plays like that again, keep him up. Can't hurt.

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How was Garbutt v Nashville? Worth keeping up/roster spot next season?

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How was Garbutt v Nashville? Worth keeping up/roster spot next season?
Sure. He seems every bit as useful as Dowell and Petersen.

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