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02-20-2012, 09:12 AM
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You're right and with moves like that, "trading the guy in his first year of a UFA contract", good luck with getting players to sign here and work for your business.

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02-20-2012, 09:15 AM
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You're right and with moves like that, "trading the guy in his first year of a UFA contract", good luck with getting players to sign here and work for your business.
We overpay for players 99% of the time, I don't think it will be that hard to get them here.

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02-20-2012, 09:21 AM
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You're right and with moves like that, "trading the guy in his first year of a UFA contract", good luck with getting players to sign here and work for your business.
People get traded all the time, including recent UFA signings. Did Toronto dumping Versteeg ruin Burke's ability to sign players? Baloney.

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02-20-2012, 09:24 AM
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Erik Cole + Thomas Kaberle
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Ryan Kesler + Late round pick

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02-20-2012, 10:26 AM
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I think some of you need to think this through. Trading Cole in the first year of his deal would not be a classless move in any way because he has the NTC. For him to waive the clause he would have to be traded into a situation that he sees as being a favorable one and approves of.

If the right offer came along he may well welcome a chance to play for a top contender and get another shot at the cup rather than wait to see if this team rebounds or has to do a full rebuild.

As for my opinion, I agree with a lot of others that it should only be considered if it's a really good deal.

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02-20-2012, 10:31 AM
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People get traded all the time, including recent UFA signings. Did Toronto dumping Versteeg ruin Burke's ability to sign players? Baloney.
The Canadiens already have to overpay for UFAs, so just add another reason to the list. Makes sense

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02-20-2012, 10:34 AM
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Erik Cole + Thomas Kaberle
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Mike Gillis would get fired!

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02-20-2012, 11:20 AM
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We overpay for players 99% of the time, I don't think it will be that hard to get them here.
Cole at 4.5M with the way he's been playing this year is FAR from an overpayment. Plekanec is underpaid at 5M.

But yea you're right.

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02-20-2012, 11:22 AM
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People get traded all the time, including recent UFA signings. Did Toronto dumping Versteeg ruin Burke's ability to sign players? Baloney.
Versteeg was a trade acquisition and yes the Leafs have just as much trouble signing UFA NHLers if not more judging by recent years.

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02-20-2012, 11:27 AM
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You're right and with moves like that, "trading the guy in his first year of a UFA contract", good luck with getting players to sign here and work for your business.
What are you talking about.. we'd be doing him a favour if we trade him from this joke of a team to a team that actually has a chance to win the cup..

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02-20-2012, 11:35 AM
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No, it sends the wrong message to everyone. It forces Cole to uproot and move to a new city and a new team which he may or may not find chemistry with, not to mention his wife and kids. It says we trade people no matter how well they perform. Every young forward benefits from having him with the team, and they'll do worse without him. Pacioretty in particular should benefit from years of playing with him.

And finally it says we're losers.

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02-20-2012, 11:37 AM
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Simple answer to the OP: Nope.

Cole is part of the solution.

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02-20-2012, 11:39 AM
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Any team can trade/bury anybody.

If your goal is to fail like CB... dump them all.

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Of course I would trade him if the price was right.

Obviously the price would be very high however.

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02-20-2012, 11:46 AM
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We overpay for players 99% of the time, I don't think it will be that hard to get them here.
I lol'd, you think Montreal has an easy time attracting UFAs? Every off season they make a pitch at the biggest players/names out there and every year these players chose another team.

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02-20-2012, 11:48 AM
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I lol'd, you think Montreal has an easy time attracting UFAs? Every off season they make a pitch at the biggest players/names out there and every year these players chose another team.
They pick another team cause that who they want to play for not because of the way the Habs treat their players

The media is a big reason why most players don't want to play here

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02-20-2012, 12:04 PM
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I think if you can trade someone and make your team better, now or for the future, you do it. But how do you expect to attract UFA's in the future, when you trade them away, Montreal has had enough trouble in the past signing big names. I wouldn't trade Cole unless he A) asked for a trade or B) was playing like ****, not living up to his contract, but he is C) playing incredibly well for us.

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02-20-2012, 12:18 PM
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For me, having a couple of power forwards like Cole and Patches are necessary in todays NHL, so I wouldnt move Cole for picks, unless we were talking about 1st or 2nd overall, and that aint happening, or the big , strong , big point producing centre we want, and I dont see that either. So , keep King Cole and enjoy.

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02-20-2012, 12:23 PM
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People get traded all the time, including recent UFA signings. Did Toronto dumping Versteeg ruin Burke's ability to sign players? Baloney.
Not saying I disagree but versteeg wanted out

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02-20-2012, 12:33 PM
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At 33 years old Cole is having a career year for our floundering team. Seeing the return some below average players are garnering would you make him available for trade? I think most of us are in agreement the Canadiens are not in a position to be cup contenders in the next 1 or 2 years. In which time Cole's best years will start to fall into the rear view mirror. If the potential for a large return for Cole is there would you move him? (assuming he'd waive his NTC of course)
No, Habs been looking for a forward with skill and size for years. Maybe in 2 years if team is out of playoffs and Cole is nearer end of his career may look at trading him

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02-20-2012, 12:34 PM
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No, Habs been looking for a forward with skill and size for years. Maybe in 2 years if team is out of playoffs and Cole is nearer end of his career may look at trading him
More like it.

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02-20-2012, 12:41 PM
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Depending on the return, it would be irresponsible not to...

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02-20-2012, 12:43 PM
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All players have a value, and it change during a career/season. Right now I think Cole worth more right now compared to last year. To sell high would be a good timing to trade him soon.

Remember even Gretzky got traded... For the right price no player is untouchable.

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02-20-2012, 12:45 PM
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NO!!! Cole needs to play his whole contract in Montreal and if he can still skate and play at the end of his 4 years, we should re-sign him for at least 2 more seasons.

He is the perfect power forward winger that the Habs have needed and he seems to love playing in Montreal. He's a good vet and a good leader....we need to accommodate him as much as possible.

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02-20-2012, 12:45 PM
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All players have a value, and it change during a career/season. Right now I think Cole worth more right now compared to last year. To sell high would be a good timing to trade him soon.

Remember even Gretzky got traded... For the right price no player is untouchable.
Players like him are very rare. He,s exactly the type of playres thye habs needed since ages. + He is a leader, a guy who helped DD and MaxPac develop tremendously this season.

NO to the trade.

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