Is it listed somewhere as a stat for defensive zone starts? BTN only has offensive zone starts, and Couturier and Talbot are both have less offensive zone start percentages than Giroux.
100% - offensive zone start% = defensive zone start% (since it's excluding neutral zone starts). Couturier and Talbot start a greater % of their shifts in the d-zone but since Giroux plays a ton more shifts than them he's started more often in the defensive zone than either of those guys.
Give me a stat that is a good indication of how good a player's two way game is.
Corsi is the closest but you still have to take into consideration the quality of opponents a player faces, where he starts his shifts and who his teammates are. No one stat will ever tell anyone how good a player is.
Giroux, for all the praise he gets for being a solid two way forward with top end scoring ability he is -4 for the season. Thoughts? I know he plays on the pk and all but still think he should'nt be a minus player.
3.27 (4th best among Flyers' forwards)
3.27 (2nd worst)
3.87 (best among TB's forwards)
3.23 (3rd worst)
3.31 (best among OTT's forwards)
2.86 (4th worst)
3.28 (3rd best)
1.86 (5th worst)
Personally, I think Claude's had a great and productive season. He's not the MVP, though, and I don't think you'll hear any argument coming from the Flyers' fans. Frankly, Timonen's been the glue holding this team together all season, now that Pronger's out.
Clearly +/- is the best way to determine a player's defensive competence and we obviously know it's Giroux's fault that Bryzgalov and Bobrovsky have combined for an 0.899 SV% behind him at even strength. Quality thread.