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02-20-2012, 06:45 PM
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Hemsky wouldn't be a good fit in Nashville. What sniper do they have for him to feed the puck to? Wilson? Legwand? Hornqvist (who plays the same position)? I can't see him fitting there. The Predators need a goal scorer a lot more than they need a playmaking wing.

Obviously I'm not saying he'd come here, but his style of play would be much more suited for a guy like Tavares, who is a goal scoring center. And playing with Moulson who is a goal scoring LW. Again, not saying he'd come to the Island, but his style of play is more suited for that then anyone on the Predators really.
Exactly this. Nashville is not a good fit for Hemsky.

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No way. Unless that draft pick is a 7th, and even then I'm not sold on it
Not sure I understand. Edmonton would want a high pick.

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02-20-2012, 06:51 PM
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Hopefully very short sighted then, because he's been playing well lately . I just mean, people put too much into him being hurt the last 2 years, and ignoring the calibre of player he is

No, that's whats wrong with Oilers fans. Remembering him for what he was and not what he is.

He is a 4 goal player. he was a 70 point player.

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Not sure I understand. Edmonton would want a high pick.
I read it as Blum + Pick for Hemsky because he said the pick was going the other way. Not totally sure how he meant it

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No, that's whats wrong with Oilers fans. Remembering him for what he was and not what he is.

He is a 4 goal player. he was a 70 point player.
He IS an extremely talented forward who took a while to get going after having a majory injury...

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Well we got Eberle at 22nd that year so not really.
Plus they got Teubert (13th overall pick) and klefbom (was the best D at the WJHC) for penner. Obviously they're not a Tyler Myers but from all indications Klefbom has the chance to be a solid NHLer. The real losers out of the whole Penner situation is the Kings. Looking back on it already, wow was that ever a bad trade for the Kings.

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No, that's whats wrong with Oilers fans. Remembering him for what he was and not what he is.

He is a 4 goal player. he was a 70 point player.
Wasn't Mike Fisher struggling with the Senators? He still got a high return.

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Hemsky is good at controlling the half boards on the PP, luring in defenders enough to open passing lanes to the point. I can think of a guy on their point who might benefit from that. The same way we used to have a guy benefit from that (Souray) who had 23 goals in 08/09 (half of them on the PP).

I think a 1st + cond pick (2nd in '13 if they make the finals) would be fair.
Exactly. Nashville is already tough to score on in 5 on 5 play, so the acquisition of Gill, and possibly Hemsky, would give them a serious edge on special teams.

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Hemsky is good at controlling the half boards on the PP, luring in defenders enough to open passing lanes to the point. I can think of a guy on their point who might benefit from that. The same way we used to have a guy benefit from that (Souray) who had 23 goals in 08/09 (half of them on the PP).

I think a 1st + cond pick (2nd in '13 if they make the finals) would be fair.
No. 1st straight up would be the best he'd get and even that seems overpriced.

I'd say Blum + conditional 4th if we make The finals

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Wasn't Mike Fisher struggling with the Senators? He still got a high return.
Fisher was signed for a few years and only got a 1st. That's totally different than a top prospect + 1st for a rental.

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Wasn't Mike Fisher struggling with the Senators? He still got a high return.
Shhh... That doesn't support his factless theory...

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Wasn't Mike Fisher struggling with the Senators? He still got a high return.
Im not arguing whether Hemsky will get a high return or not. Im just sick of seeing him talked about being a useful player. He was. Now he isn't.

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Shhh... That doesn't support his factless theory...
He has 4 goals. Fact.
He's been on and off the IR for 2 seasons. Fact.
He isn't a 70 point player. Fact.

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Im not arguing whether Hemsky will get a high return or not. Im just sick of seeing him talked about being a useful player. He was. Now he isn't.
and I'm sick of people thinking this because they go on hockeydb and see his production has dipped this year...

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and I'm sick of people thinking this because they go on hockeydb and see his production has dipped this year...
I watch lots of Oiler games, bro. Stop acting like im talking about your mom or something. Why you taking it so personally. The guy is a former shell of himself.

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I hope it is true so LA doesn't have to hear about him again But seriously, he would be a good fit for Nashville.

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No, that's whats wrong with Oilers fans. Remembering him for what he was and not what he is.

He is a 4 goal player. he was a 70 point player.
Way to make it sound so extreme. Let me try.

Henrik Sedin is only a 13 goal player................ but he also has 51 assists putting him 5th in the league in points

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02-20-2012, 07:01 PM
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Way to make it sound so extreme. Let me try.

Henrik Sedin is only a 13 goal player................ but he also has 51 assists putting him 5th in the league in points
Fair enough. 25 point player.

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Way to make it sound so extreme. Let me try.

Henrik Sedin is only a 13 goal player................ but he also has 51 assists putting him 5th in the league in points
But Hemsky doesn't have 51 assists and isn't 5th in the league in points. He's got 4 goals and has the same number of points as Jordin Tootoo.

He's also a playmaker, which we don't really need.

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Gonna be something + a first and well move the 1st at the draft for a player

Edit: if it happens, nothing to do with eklund just the most likely destination

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Im not arguing whether Hemsky will get a high return or not. Im just sick of seeing him talked about being a useful player. He was. Now he isn't.
He was nearly a PPG player last year. He's still a valuable player despite his sub par season.

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He was nearly a PPG player last year. He's still a valuable player despite his sub par season.
Again, I agree. He is a valuable player, but his injury bug and dip in points has depreciated his value.

All im saying is: He wasn't what he was, so why talk about him being a injury free 70 point player? Why value him as such?

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It doesn't make sense for Poile to trade Kostitsyn when they're trying to compete imo



ya ok... Hemsky is just fine



He's also a playmaker on the 29th place team...



I think wherever he ends up, people on HF are going to think it's an overpayment. Most people (such as the guy I quoted above) are way to near sighted and forget his skill level
I didn't write anything about Poile trading Sergei Kostitsyn.

I wrote if Nashville's 1st was in play-- i.e., Poile were willing to move it for Hemsky-- then why wouldn't he move it for Kostitsyn (i.e., trade it for Andrei, instead of trading it for Hemsky . . . seems like a better return, no?).

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I don't know if I would. I don't think it's impossible. And the answer would be easy - different evaluation of their respective talents. It's not impossible they feel that one of those guys is a better fit with their team. Stranger things have happened.
Can't fathom that Nashville would see Ales Hemsky as a better fit for their team or a playoff run in the West than Andrei Kostitsyn.

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Again, I agree. He is a valuable player, but his injury bug and dip in points has depreciated his value.
You questioned why people think he's a useful player, but now you're contradicting your statement by now saying he's valuable?

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All im saying is: He wasn't what he was, so why talk about him being a injury free 70 point player? Why value him as such?
Who's valuing him as an injury free 70 point player?

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Hopefully very short sighted then, because he's been playing well lately . I just mean, people put too much into him being hurt the last 2 years, and ignoring the calibre of player he is
And what caliber of player is he exactly?

Hemsky is a player who has only twice reached the 20 goal mark and only twice reached 70+ points. His career has been plagued by injuries and avg numbers for the amount of money he's made. Why he gets this rep of being a top caliber player is beyond me. He's about as obvious an overrated player as there is in the NHL.

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