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02-20-2012, 05:35 PM
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Lol how would that make them "bandwagon fans"?
Pretty self explanatory. When they are winning you love them, when they are losing you want to trade everyone and run them out of town. Bandwagon, fair weather, whatever you want to call it, it's ********.

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02-20-2012, 05:38 PM
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Pretty self explanatory. When they are winning you love them, when they are losing you want to trade everyone and run them out of town. Bandwagon, fair weather, whatever you want to call it, it's ********.
That's fair weather. Bandwagon is when a team gains a bunch of ignorant fans after a large victory. For instance 75% of Penguin fans started off as bandwagonners after the Crosby + Cup events.

But yes, both are ********.

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Hmm!
Meaning what exactly? What message is she referring to? The line changes?

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Richards registers 1 even strength point, for every 38 minutes of even strength ice time he gets. Simmonds did better than that when he was here while playing in the bottom 6.

The good version of Mike Richards produces regardless. We're not getting that version. Richards should be getting blasted. The honeymoon is over. He was brought here to be a difference maker, not "do the little things." How bout he does the "big things" every once in awhile?
I agree to a certain extent, but name one good player he's had on his line since coming back from the concussion.

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02-20-2012, 06:08 PM
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haha!
That to me says the Kings have put in a claim for Conklin. If they get him, a deal for Nash or Carter to the Kings goes down within hours.

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That to me says the Kings have put in a claim for Conklin. If they get him, a deal for Nash or Carter to the Kings goes down within hours.
Sign me up.

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02-20-2012, 06:11 PM
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Meaning what exactly? What message is she referring to? The line changes?
Probably about Sutter calling out Kopitar and Brown.

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02-20-2012, 06:13 PM
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I would rather have Conklin for the year than a callup, or a trade for a backup where we have to give up something more. Chances are he'd play one or two games.

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why would we need conlkin for this deal to go through? just ask CBJ to include sanford.

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why would we need conlkin for this deal to go through? just ask CBJ to include sanford.
They probably want to keep him, I wouldn't be surprised if they dumped Mason.

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why would we need conlkin for this deal to go through? just ask CBJ to include sanford.
Sanford is on IR right now.

ETA: It's a back injury. Back injuries aren't the easiest to fix. Right now, Mason sucks, Sanford is on IR, their 3rd string is on IR and that's why they had their 4th string/AHL (and ECHL) goalie in the other night when Mason got pulled.


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02-20-2012, 06:29 PM
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Not sure I buy Bernsteins rumor of LA offering Johnson/Bernier/Vey and a 2nd

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What... Wait?

Who said what about Conklin?

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Sanford is on IR right now.

ETA: It's a back injury. Back injuries aren't the easiest to fix. Right now, Mason sucks, Sanford is on IR, their 3rd string is on IR and that's why they had their 4th string/AHL goalie in the other night when Mason got pulled.
that makes sense.

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I don't want to give up all that. Quick is going to be a UFA and we can't negotiate with him until after July 1st, 2012....

So, if we trade Bernier, who is a RFA come the summer of 2013 and lose Quick we lost two young goalies that it took this organization 40+ years to develop.

It also means that in the past 3 Lombardi deals we moved Teubert, a 1st, Schenn, Simmonds, a 2nd, Loktionov, Johnson and Bernier...? Jesus!

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02-20-2012, 06:39 PM
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Not sure I buy Bernsteins rumor of LA offering Johnson/Bernier/Vey and a 2nd
I thought he said Bernier, Johnson, Loktionov, plus for Nash?

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02-20-2012, 06:40 PM
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Ott could be available, hate his guts but he is the Kind of 3rd liner teams covet.

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02-20-2012, 06:54 PM
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Anyone taking ANYTHING that Dennis Bernstein says as even being remotely close to true is making a mistake and I would urge caution when reading/listening to him. Allot of caution.

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02-20-2012, 06:57 PM
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It also means that in the past 3 Lombardi deals we moved Teubert, a 1st, Schenn, Simmonds, a 2nd, Loktionov, Johnson and Bernier...? Jesus!

Well... half that hasn't even happened.

Even so it's not really all that much in the modern NHL.

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02-20-2012, 07:12 PM
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Johnson/Bernier/Vey and a 2nd thats a deal we can live with. If Dean can flip Penner/Stoll into picks than that makes it even look better. Slava can fit the roll of JJ.

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Johnson/Bernier/Vey and a 2nd thats a deal we can live with. If Dean can flip Penner/Stoll into picks than that makes it even look better. Slava can fit the roll of JJ.
Yeah, I could live with it too. Assuming you get anything for Penner the line up looks something like this.

Brown - Kopitar - Williams
Nash - Richards - ? (Gagne) maybe during playoffs.
Clifford - Stoll - Nolan
Kings - Lewis - Richardson

Doughty - Scuderi
Voynov - Mitchell
Greene - Martinez

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02-20-2012, 07:26 PM
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1. Bernstein doesn't know **** like everyone else on this board

2. We don't have a 2nd round pick this year, i doubt Lombardi included his 2nd of next year as well since he covets picks/prospects so much.

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I thought he said Bernier, Johnson, Loktionov, plus for Nash?
I hope Dean gets fired this offseason if he ships out Bernier, Johnson, and Loki. I spent too many years watching those guys grow into better hockey players, and they are getting better each one of them hasn't reached their potential and we're tossing those three away for a player that won't be the cure to this teams problems.

You know we're going to be talking about player X, in another teams uniform raising the cup while we're still looking for a GM, Goalie, defenseman, etc. The more things change the more they stay the same.

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02-20-2012, 07:33 PM
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I hope Dean gets fired this offseason if he ships out Bernier, Johnson, and Loki. I spent too many years watching those guys grow into better hockey players, and they are getting better each one of them hasn't reached their potential and we're tossing those three away for a player that won't be the cure to this teams problems.

You know we're going to be talking about player X, in another teams uniform raising the cup while we're still looking for a GM, Goalie, defenseman, etc. The more things change the more they stay the same.
I am going to assume your a bit bias(Not a bad thing) because you have his name in your board name.

But what good is Bernier to the team if he doesn't play? He doesn't play even as a backup. And he might never be as good as Quick is now. On top of that he isn't going to knock Quick out of the line up anytime soon. So having him on our roster doesn't mean much.

It would be tough to loose Johnson.

I don't see Loktionov out there doing all kinds of great things that would make me hesitate to include him in a package for Rick Nash.

And to say Rick Nash isn't the cure is just dumb(seems harsh couldn't find the right word not attacking you). How do you know? Nobody in this earth knows.

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There's nothing wrong with losing Bernier or Johnson, it's adding more on top of that...I have an issue with it. Three roster players for Nash is loony.

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