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02-20-2012, 03:41 AM
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kovy, straka, lang line

a thing of beauty that line was, too bad they were only together for a season or two

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To put the question forward..
Why it was so successful? All of them had a career year in Pens IIRC.
Straka was slowed down by injuries, but all of them never put it together elsewhere.

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also the economic state of the penguins at the time did not allow them to keep all those guys together, so much of the stars were traded, like jags, kovy, lang, too bad, i think those guys would have made a great team for a few years

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A big reason they were so successful was because every team put their best checkers on Jagr. So you had the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best offensive players on the team all playing together against weaker competition.

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A big reason they were so successful was because every team put their best checkers on Jagr. So you had the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best offensive players on the team all playing together against weaker competition.
yeah, good point, maybe in 2000-2001, but in 2001-02, jags was on the caps, and those guys still produced, so, they weren't only good cuz they had to face weaker competition

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To put the question forward..
Why it was so successful? All of them had a career year in Pens IIRC.
Straka was slowed down by injuries, but all of them never put it together elsewhere.
lang's best year was in washington, with jagr out half the year. and kovy's best year was in montreal.

straka was always at his best on jagr teams though.

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lang's best year was in washington, with jagr out half the year. and kovy's best year was in montreal.

straka was always at his best on jagr teams though.
yeah, kovy had a sick year in montreal in 07-08, but his BEST year was on the penguins

2000-01 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 79 44 51 95

2007-08 Montreal Canadiens NHL 82 35 49 84

as for lang, in 00-01 he set career highs in goals, assists, points, but not PPG, which as you said, he had a great year in washington

2000-01 Pittsburgh Penguins NHL 82 32 48 80

2003-04 Washington Capitals NHL 63 29 45 74 (i think this was the only year in his entire career where he scored more points than games played) but still not career highs which he achieved with the kovy and straka

yeah, very true about straka, he loved to play on jags' teams

but still would have been to see these guys stay together for 5 years or so

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lang's washington year was the only time he finished top ten in the league (and led the whole league for a stretch), so as far as i'm concerned that's his career year.

kovy was a second team all-star in montreal, which is why i call that his best year. he also got significant hart votes, for the first and only time in his career.

but yeah, would have been nice to see those guys stick together. straka was one of my favourites at that time. too bad he had such bad luck with injuries after his 95 point year.

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kovy was a second team all-star in montreal, which is why i call that his best year. he also got significant hart votes, for the first and only time in his career.
Sure, it was a great year for him, but it's Montreal. Lot of media attention etc. With 4th place in Art Ross I pick 2001. Not mention uncomparable 44 goals from defensive era to 35 from post lockout.

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Sure, it was a great year for him, but it's Montreal. Lot of media attention etc. With 4th place in Art Ross I pick 2001. Not mention uncomparable 44 goals from defensive era to 35 from post lockout.
but i do see where he was coming from, i mean, i myself think the 2001 year was his best, but that year in montreal, if you think about it, he actually had much weaker linemates in pleks and ak, vs lang and straka, and also just an overall weaker team around him, plus added in the pressure of playing in montreal, and kovy was older by then, so to some extent both years are very close, but maybe a slight edge to 2001, with the trap era, and higher numbers, but both years very very very close, both his best

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