LALA, I HAVE BEEN READING YOUR POSTS ON DELUCA FOR A WHILE NOW.
Question: Do you know this kid personally? Seems you have alot of inside info on him.
He finished this season with 80 points. Currently 7 th overall in all time scoring in Midget aaa.
How can you be so negative about the player.
Numbers dont lie. You may have a hidden agenda, but be realistic. Give credit where credit is due.
The only reason he was not drafted last season in the Q draft, was because he personally adressed the league and told them of his agreement to the University of Vermont and to the Cedar Rapids Roughriders of the USHL.
I know the whole family personally and I can say outright, all honesty was brought to the for front.
He was called on by every team in the Q and explained his intentions to all of the scouts.
I have read that some think he is not a bright kid and that he is holding out for some type of cash settlement.
He comes from a comfortable family with very strong moral issues and is a straight A student.
I dont know the kid, I dont have a hidden agenda...I just call it the way I see it...if you dont agree with me, thats OK...but dont accuse me of having a hidden agenda. Ive been on this site since 2002...ive been working with teams long before De Luca came along...so why would I single out this 1 individual??
You are far more likely to have a hidden agenda than I am...
At the end of the day I post my opinions...some will like them...some will dislike them...thats life...but in the end my track record speaks for itself...I am right far more often than I am wrong and If im wrong about De Luca I will gladly come on here and admit it...I have no problems admitting when Im wrong as no one can be right 100% of the time.
LALA, I HAVE BEEN READING YOUR POSTS ON DELUCA FOR A WHILE NOW.
Question: Do you know this kid personally? Seems you have alot of inside info on him.
He finished this season with 80 points. Currently 7 th overall in all time scoring in Midget aaa.
How can you be so negative about the player.
Numbers dont lie. You may have a hidden agenda, but be realistic. Give credit where credit is due.
The only reason he was not drafted last season in the Q draft, was because he personally adressed the league and told them of his agreement to the University of Vermont and to the Cedar Rapids Roughriders of the USHL.
I know the whole family personally and I can say outright, all honesty was brought to the for front.
He was called on by every team in the Q and explained his intentions to all of the scouts.
I have read that some think he is not a bright kid and that he is holding out for some type of cash settlement.
He comes from a comfortable family with very strong moral issues and is a straight A student.
im wondering if this is Deluca's father because I heard he is on these boards and has problems with people talking about his son on here but it is a free board and freedom of speech if you are....on the other side here Lalalaprise is for a fact one of the top posters for QMJHL on these boards as well and he does not have a hidden agenda but speaks like he said what he see's... like said before do not scout by points by on ice product...like in the QMJHL Simon Gamach put up maga points in the QMJHL but yet was not NHL material....same could be said here, myself I do not mind Deluca but his selfish play on the ice and tunnel vision is very bad and could be a major problem for him in the next level, plus I know attitude wise as well has to improve...Lalalaprise I would listen to more than anyone else on these boards if he says something about QMJHL prospects that I do not know myself and he is not biased either.
seeing where you wrote give credit where credit is due is a poor comment, Lalalaprise has very good judgment of players, his track record is very good...and how can someone give credit where they do not think credit is due LOL...
I think Smallman will rise on the draft charts. I've seen him improve a lot in the past weeks and he looks to be growing. Had three points in the Canadiens game sunday.
It funny just seem him play sat. night in fredrickton they lost 4-0 but Landry was unbeatable and unbelievable but Smallman look good probleable fredrickton best also checking stats he leads his team and he not looking small anymore out there he took some big hits and gave some which he came out on top and these guys were a little bigger so I
do agree with your comments on him that he will rise on the draft charts i Haden seem him play since the monctonian in nov.
I was thinking over how Audette and Deluca might play together in Sherbrooke, seems like a nice 1-2 punch.
Any chance they opt for a ton of CEB kids ?
This did was a big rumeur at the tournament Drummondville. It will not to be a surprise if Deluca is choose by Sherbrooke in 2e ronde. The young Audette will should be the 1e to Sherbrooke. There are echos who say that he will be go to the Program USA for 2012-13.
There are can not be too many CEB players for Sherbrooke. Leiva is the seule goaleur but he is not for the Q in the next saison.
Defenseurs can be Leclerc, Beaudry et Rouleau only. All other defenseurs are signe or proteger with Q teams. Leclerc can maybe a selection interesting. The PA, Laliberte did play many games and can will be a good selection.
Deslauriers and Greer maybe to choose in the 1e ronde. Storto can suppose to be go to the US but can to be a selection interesting. Lemieux and Desjardins can be choose but after the 5e ronde. The 2 can not play in the next saison.
Paulin Bordeleau is the rumeur of suppose to be the coach.
I will be interest to see the 20 years selectione and the exchange before the draft.
well I will say players going away to play do not get the exposure a player who stays home to play gets....most teams will not invest the amount of money it takes to fly out to Notre Dame and watch 2 games then fly back, some teams are on a strict budget some teams are not, but if a player plays home, scouts are at every game, there are major tournaments like Monctonian, Kiawanas that attract major amounts of scouts...if they go prep route you know a team will make 1 or 2 trips to see him play, so really the team is mostly seeing the player maybe 3 or 4 games and making bases off of that...I think Prep is overrated myself, the kids who play prep arre never any better there than staying here IMO, Crosby was amazing no matter, he could have stayed in nova scotia and played Jr A which is higher level than midget, Mackinnon same thing would have been good no matter...
but it is all on what the player wants as an experience as well right, so no right or wrong way, just as development wise im not really sure if prep is any better as staying home.
I agree with MOST of what you are saying here, your posts are thoughtful and informed. The one thing I think you didn't mention about the ones that go to prep schools is that the kids actually get a great education instead of living on a bus. No question though that for hockey, its better to be in midget and then the Q. My point is, unless you are going to be drafted high in the Q, prep school, Div 1 and Div 3 options are always attractive.
Most kids who come into the junior leagues don't realize that it isn’t always glamorous, many late late nights sleeping on a bus and many days spent idling in boredom. For many, they aren't diciplined enough to keep the studies up and have few options when they exit.
I agree with MOST of what you are saying here, your posts are thoughtful and informed. The one thing I think you didn't mention about the ones that go to prep schools is that the kids actually get a great education instead of living on a bus. No question though that for hockey, its better to be in midget and then the Q. My point is, unless you are going to be drafted high in the Q, prep school, Div 1 and Div 3 options are always attractive.
Most kids who come into the junior leagues don't realize that it isn’t always glamorous, many late late nights sleeping on a bus and many days spent idling in boredom. For many, they aren't diciplined enough to keep the studies up and have few options when they exit.
Actually, every year you play in the Q, I heard you get a free year of university in Canada. Thats certainly an option.
I believe it is actually half the tuition amount plus some other incentives but certainly not a "free" year. Individual teams may kick some in also.
And that is of course if you qualify, both academically and through Q commitments.
Well if you dont qualify academically what makes you think you will qualify academically for D1 or D3?
Getting a D1 full-ride scholarship is really rare...not saying it wont or cant happen, but you have to be a heck of a player to be able to play D1...i find in talking to parents they seem to have this notion that the NCAA hands out full scholarships like candy...
Did you know that last year the NCAA handed out 16 full-ride scholarships to D1 schools for kids from Ontario...16...thats a very small number when you take into acount how many kids plaing Jr A or B are looking to go that route.
I agree with your point about going prep school allows you to concentrate more on school and I dont begrudge parents for sending their kids that route, but some are very naive in thinking that a D1 scholly is waiting for their kid after 2 years of Prep School.
Often times a kid can play an extra year of Midget AAA or Jr A here at 16...and than at 17 & 18 go to the USHL/NAHL and than be left with very few options at 19 if they arent given a scholarship offer...if they would have went the Q route they would have played at 16, 17, 18, 19 and had most of their CIS education paid for...
Well if you dont qualify academically what makes you think you will qualify academically for D1 or D3?
Getting a D1 full-ride scholarship is really rare...not saying it wont or cant happen, but you have to be a heck of a player to be able to play D1...i find in talking to parents they seem to have this notion that the NCAA hands out full scholarships like candy...
Did you know that last year the NCAA handed out 16 full-ride scholarships to D1 schools for kids from Ontario...16...thats a very small number when you take into acount how many kids plaing Jr A or B are looking to go that route.
I agree with your point about going prep school allows you to concentrate more on school and I dont begrudge parents for sending their kids that route, but some are very naive in thinking that a D1 scholly is waiting for their kid after 2 years of Prep School.
Often times a kid can play an extra year of Midget AAA or Jr A here at 16...and than at 17 & 18 go to the USHL/NAHL and than be left with very few options at 19 if they arent given a scholarship offer...if they would have went the Q route they would have played at 16, 17, 18, 19 and had most of their CIS education paid for...
No question a D1 scholarship is rare. Thing is, if you don't work hard at school work when you are 16 and 17 because you are in the Q and your marks fall, you can't get into a good program in CIS either. I guess thats my point, so much focus on the young players that they miss too much school work at the most important time. The prep schools for the most part keep them on track academically no matter what the hockey options are when they are out, they can still get into almost any uni.
No question a D1 scholarship is rare. Thing is, if you don't work hard at school work when you are 16 and 17 because you are in the Q and your marks fall, you can't get into a good program in CIS either. I guess thats my point, so much focus on the young players that they miss too much school work at the most important time. The prep schools for the most part keep them on track academically no matter what the hockey options are when they are out, they can still get into almost any uni.
actually the kids in the CHL are watched close with school marks, as a league there is a big push on your education...and don't fool yourself the NCAA kids as well are on the road and trying to jugel school work, hockey practice, travel and games...I can not remember the amount of games but if a CHL player plays so many games there schooling is paid for...so even if the kid knows they are not future NHL material they still have CIS going to be paid for and a great education...if anyone thinks though that the CHL does not worry about a kids schooling i know of a few players with my team who were actually sent down because they were not doing well in school and had no intenstion of trying at school...their marks are looked at close because we beleive the kid has to have his life balanced right...we do worry about a kids educational development as well as there athletic development too.
actually the kids in the CHL are watched close with school marks, as a league there is a big push on your education...and don't fool yourself the NCAA kids as well are on the road and trying to jugel school work, hockey practice, travel and games...I can not remember the amount of games but if a CHL player plays so many games there schooling is paid for...so even if the kid knows they are not future NHL material they still have CIS going to be paid for and a great education...if anyone thinks though that the CHL does not worry about a kids schooling i know of a few players with my team who were actually sent down because they were not doing well in school and had no intenstion of trying at school...their marks are looked at close because we beleive the kid has to have his life balanced right...we do worry about a kids educational development as well as there athletic development too.
Well, I'll give you that they are doing better in the CHL, but its been a long time coming. Glad to hear that some teams are taking care of this, the more they pay attention to this, the fewer kids will be going south of the border imo.
actually the kids in the CHL are watched close with school marks, as a league there is a big push on your education...and don't fool yourself the NCAA kids as well are on the road and trying to jugel school work, hockey practice, travel and games...I can not remember the amount of games but if a CHL player plays so many games there schooling is paid for...so even if the kid knows they are not future NHL material they still have CIS going to be paid for and a great education...if anyone thinks though that the CHL does not worry about a kids schooling i know of a few players with my team who were actually sent down because they were not doing well in school and had no intenstion of trying at school...their marks are looked at close because we beleive the kid has to have his life balanced right...we do worry about a kids educational development as well as there athletic development too.
Interesting comment about kids being sent home because of doing poorly in school - that is the first time I have heard of a Q team taking that course of action due only to academic performance. When it comes to education the league talks the talk and the teams talk the talk .... but I am aware of many instances where a players high school education appears to have been a secondary consideration (or not considered at all)by a team in their decision making to believe that education has becomes a priority. No question things have improved over the past few years - but there is still lots of room for improvement.
I beleive the Q league education money is now up to $5,000 per season played in the Q. When you are attending university you pay the costs up front and at the end of the academic year you apply for the league money - if you took 5 courses each semester (for a total of 10 courses) and passed them all you qualify for the full grant of $5,000. The Q league money is still low, relative to the OHL and WHL, and relative to the real cost of tuition outside of Quebec. Some teams have supplementary education funding - and that dollar amount depends on the team and the player in question.
Well if you dont qualify academically what makes you think you will qualify academically for D1 or D3?
Getting a D1 full-ride scholarship is really rare...not saying it wont or cant happen, but you have to be a heck of a player to be able to play D1...i find in talking to parents they seem to have this notion that the NCAA hands out full scholarships like candy...
Did you know that last year the NCAA handed out 16 full-ride scholarships to D1 schools for kids from Ontario...16...thats a very small number when you take into acount how many kids plaing Jr A or B are looking to go that route.
I agree with your point about going prep school allows you to concentrate more on school and I dont begrudge parents for sending their kids that route, but some are very naive in thinking that a D1 scholly is waiting for their kid after 2 years of Prep School.
Often times a kid can play an extra year of Midget AAA or Jr A here at 16...and than at 17 & 18 go to the USHL/NAHL and than be left with very few options at 19 if they arent given a scholarship offer...if they would have went the Q route they would have played at 16, 17, 18, 19 and had most of their CIS education paid for...
Absolutely correct about some parents perception that NCAA D1 scholarships are handed out like candy .... the reality is each team has only 18 full scholarships to award per season...and a roster of about 25 players. Coaches like to spread them around and streach their dollar - thats why you hear of half rides, three quarter rides etc. In the Ivy League schools their rules stipulate there are no athletic scholarships - all financial support is need based - so no limit on numbers, just a less certain funding process compared to other D1 programs.
Interesting comment about kids being sent home because of doing poorly in school - that is the first time I have heard of a Q team taking that course of action due only to academic performance. When it comes to education the league talks the talk and the teams talk the talk .... but I am aware of many instances where a players high school education appears to have been a secondary consideration (or not considered at all)by a team in their decision making to believe that education has becomes a priority. No question things have improved over the past few years - but there is still lots of room for improvement.
I beleive the Q league education money is now up to $5,000 per season played in the Q. When you are attending university you pay the costs up front and at the end of the academic year you apply for the league money - if you took 5 courses each semester (for a total of 10 courses) and passed them all you qualify for the full grant of $5,000. The Q league money is still low, relative to the OHL and WHL, and relative to the real cost of tuition outside of Quebec. Some teams have supplementary education funding - and that dollar amount depends on the team and the player in question.
you know again you can keep bringing up about a kid who's school was put 2nd...but the kid has to take resposibility himself to start to be an adult now, you know if they stay home in school no one is pushing them to finish school except for their own parents...prep school just gets a lot of kids who are serious about school so of course they are not going to be getting a whole lot of kids who only care about hockey and not school the kids are going there for school, going to a prep school is not going to make the kid a better student, if they do not perform up to par the school sends them home...again the kid themselves has to take responsibility....and I will tell you if a kid is failing out of school the QMJHL team or any CHL team will be hard pressed to keep them there or not step in and try to offer solutions to the kid because I know we as well as every other team get the kids marks and have an educational person working with the team, so there is hear say on kids saying im failing and staying with the team but again for kids who's school is put 2nd is only because they themseleves put them 2nd...there is practice in the morning for a QMJHL team and a game every so many nights a week...the team usually eats breakfast, lunch and supper as a team, a lot of players take there school work on the bus with them, they do it during free time and at night time....so just like prep school or NCAA the player themselves have to make school a priority, and the last thing a CHL team does is stand there and say nope you have to do this no matter what happens in school...i can say that for a fact. But I can not stress enough that the kids themselves have to take control over there own life too, and like any prep or NCAA no one is there 24/7 telling them to do their school work, it is the players choice and the educational packages are in place for CHL players and school is a priority.
Absolutely correct about some parents perception that NCAA D1 scholarships are handed out like candy .... the reality is each team has only 18 full scholarships to award per season...and a roster of about 25 players. Coaches like to spread them around and streach their dollar - thats why you hear of half rides, three quarter rides etc. In the Ivy League schools their rules stipulate there are no athletic scholarships - all financial support is need based - so no limit on numbers, just a less certain funding process compared to other D1 programs.
Also, most NCAA schools, especially Minnesota Michigan and New England ones were there is good local talent will give locals the scholarship instead of the kid from NB or saskatchewan unless you are talking exceptional players.
I know for a fact that Val D'or not only requires there players to go to school but also pays for their tutors.
Halifax also requires for their players to go to school and pays for their tuition.
If I recall correctly both pay for their players school fees and books aswell.
all teams pay for the tuition...it is a CHL rule if the player plays two season I think it comes out to be that university and books are paid for. So just not the few teams it is everyteam.
No question a D1 scholarship is rare. Thing is, if you don't work hard at school work when you are 16 and 17 because you are in the Q and your marks fall, you can't get into a good program in CIS either. I guess thats my point, so much focus on the young players that they miss too much school work at the most important time. The prep schools for the most part keep them on track academically no matter what the hockey options are when they are out, they can still get into almost any uni.
If your kid is too stupid to not care about school than that's his fault...
There have been lots of kids who managed to balance both...im not saying that going to the Q will help you do better in school, but the kid needs to want to do it...there needs to be discipline and he needs to take his education seriously.
Also I dont really see any Q grads having problems getting into CIS schools...not the ones that play hockey anyway....
you know again you can keep bringing up about a kid who's school was put 2nd...but the kid has to take resposibility himself to start to be an adult now, you know if they stay home in school no one is pushing them to finish school except for their own parents...prep school just gets a lot of kids who are serious about school so of course they are not going to be getting a whole lot of kids who only care about hockey and not school the kids are going there for school, going to a prep school is not going to make the kid a better student, if they do not perform up to par the school sends them home...again the kid themselves has to take responsibility....and I will tell you if a kid is failing out of school the QMJHL team or any CHL team will be hard pressed to keep them there or not step in and try to offer solutions to the kid because I know we as well as every other team get the kids marks and have an educational person working with the team, so there is hear say on kids saying im failing and staying with the team but again for kids who's school is put 2nd is only because they themseleves put them 2nd...there is practice in the morning for a QMJHL team and a game every so many nights a week...the team usually eats breakfast, lunch and supper as a team, a lot of players take there school work on the bus with them, they do it during free time and at night time....so just like prep school or NCAA the player themselves have to make school a priority, and the last thing a CHL team does is stand there and say nope you have to do this no matter what happens in school...i can say that for a fact. But I can not stress enough that the kids themselves have to take control over there own life too, and like any prep or NCAA no one is there 24/7 telling them to do their school work, it is the players choice and the educational packages are in place for CHL players and school is a priority.
I am aware of the demanding schedule a major junior player has to deal with as well as the academic resources teams make available for their players, and of course the players, as individuals, have to take responsibility for their school work.
If your team has a policy requiring players to maintan some minimum standard of academic peformance that is great news. Hopefully other teams adopt the same approach.
