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02-21-2012, 05:34 PM
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Tampa immediately flipped Quincey for Detroit's 1st... watch Colorado ship Downie to Philly as part of a package for JVR.
That's a pretty good call right there !Might be something brewing along those lines ?

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02-21-2012, 05:39 PM
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What about JVR to St Louis? They have some nice pieces along the back end. Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Halak, Elliot. I could see a JVR + Carle deal to St Louis, bringing a defenseman and goalie back here. Obviously Pietrangelo isn't getting traded, but Shattenkirk is having a great year.

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What about JVR to St Louis? They have some nice pieces along the back end. Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Halak, Elliot. I could see a JVR + Carle deal to St Louis, bringing a defenseman and goalie back here. Obviously Pietrangelo isn't getting traded, but Shattenkirk is having a great year.
Shattenkirk is good, but if JVR's going I want Pietrangelo. No thanks to anything less than a top tier defensive youngster even if we have to add.

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02-21-2012, 05:43 PM
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Shattenkirk is good, but if JVR's going I want Pietrangelo. No thanks to anything less than a top tier defensive youngster even if we have to add.
There is no way this guy is getting traded for unless it is absolutely severe severe over payment. Just no chance, he is already becoming a superstar dman, but doesn't get the recognition because of where he plays.

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There is no way this guy is getting traded for unless it is absolutely severe severe over payment. Just no chance, he is already becoming a superstar dman, but doesn't get the recognition because of where he plays.
I know very well.

And all I'm saying is that JVR is not on the table for less than what we need.

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02-21-2012, 05:45 PM
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Philadelphia is the #1 offense.
What do?
Trade for Rick Nash!

Philadelphia has taken more penalties then any NHL team by a long shot.
What do?
Bring back Steve Downie!

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Shattenkirk is good, but if JVR's going I want Pietrangelo. No thanks to anything less than a top tier defensive youngster even if we have to add.


Talk about overvaluing JVR. Not only is Pietrangelo one of the league's best young defensemen (perhaps just one of the best, period), but he also plays a much more important position that's particularly at a premium in the NHL these days. I'd definitely be open to doing a deal with St. Louis that's built around JVR and Shattenkirk.

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Shattenkirk is good, but if JVR's going I want Pietrangelo. No thanks to anything less than a top tier defensive youngster even if we have to add.
I hear you on that, seriously.

But if we're getting Pietrangelo, then the Flyers better be ready to send a whole lot more with JVR.

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02-21-2012, 05:46 PM
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Talk about overvaluing JVR. Not only is Pietrangelo one of the league's best young defensemen (perhaps just one of the best, period), but he also plays a much more important position that's particularly at a premium in the NHL these days. I'd definitely be open to doing a deal with St. Louis that's built around JVR and Shattenkirk.
I did not overvalue JVR.

You just don't understand context. Don't stress over it too much.

I am not looking into Shattenkirk if the deal involves JVR.

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I hear you on that, seriously.

But if we're getting Pietrangelo, then the Flyers better be ready to send a whole lot more with JVR.
I'd send a whole lot more than JVR to acquire Pietrangelo. Trust me.

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Philadelphia is the #1 offense.
What do?
Trade for Rick Nash!

Philadelphia has taken more penalties then any NHL team by a long shot.
What do?
Bring back Steve Downie!
Im in your boat, I dont understand why we are so fixated on getting old players back onto our team. Especially when at forward we are very young and very talented.


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02-21-2012, 05:59 PM
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Blues Get:
JVR(1.6 mill), Carle(3.4 mill), Bobrovsky(1.75 mill)

Flyers Get:
Shattenkirk(1.3 mill), Halak(3.75 mill)

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02-21-2012, 06:02 PM
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Blues Get:
JVR(1.6 mill), Carle(3.4 mill), Bobrovsky(1.75 mill)

Flyers Get:
Shattenkirk(1.3 mill), Halak(3.75 mill)
A very likely scenario...

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02-21-2012, 06:02 PM
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Blues Get:
JVR(1.6 mill), Carle(3.4 mill), Bobrovsky(1.75 mill)

Flyers Get:
Shattenkirk(1.3 mill), Halak(3.75 mill)
Only if by Bobrovsky, you mean Bryzgalov.

Even then, Shattenkirk isn't all that great.

I still probably wouldn't do it even if it meant getting rid of Bryz.

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02-21-2012, 10:28 PM
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Only if by Bobrovsky, you mean Bryzgalov.

Even then, Shattenkirk isn't all that great.

I still probably wouldn't do it even if it meant getting rid of Bryz.
You're underrating the shat here just a tad broseph. Shat isn't far behind JVR in terms of value.

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02-21-2012, 10:33 PM
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You're underrating the shat here just a tad broseph. Shat isn't far behind JVR in terms of value.
Well he should be. Upside isn't even close.

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02-21-2012, 10:37 PM
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You're underrating the shat here just a tad broseph. Shat isn't far behind JVR in terms of value.
JVR is going to be a monster. That's all I have to say in this matter.

Shattenkirk is going to be a solid top 4 defenseman in all likelihood. He's not going to be JVR.

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02-21-2012, 11:01 PM
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Here's an idea...

Let's keep JVR

Let's sign Grossman for 3/4 years at 2.5 per

Lets sign Kubina for 1 year at 2.5 million

Let's bring back Jagr for 1 year for the same money

Let's deal Bob at the draft

Let's sign Nabokov or some other 30+ league average goalie

Let Carle walk and replace him with our 2 rookies depending on whether the particular game needs skating or banging

Let's sign a good sized center who can play "D" and win a defensive zone face off with 30 seconds left in a period

Let's win the Stanley Cup

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02-21-2012, 11:07 PM
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Here's an idea...

Let's keep JVR

Let's sign Grossman for 3/4 years at 2.5 per

Lets sign Kubina for 1 year at 2.5 million

Let's bring back Jagr for 1 year for the same money

Let's deal Bob at the draft

Let's sign Nabokov or some other 30+ league average goalie

Let Carle walk and replace him with Suter

Let's sign a good sized center who can play "D" and win a defensive zone face off with 30 seconds left in a period

Let's win the Stanley Cup
I agree with you on all points besides the one I changed! I like the bold idea much much better than the rookies idea.

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02-21-2012, 11:11 PM
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I agree with you on all points besides the one I changed! I like the bold idea much much better than the rookies idea.
If we re-sign Grossman and Kubina for his proposed values, re-sign Jagr, and acquire Nabby...I don't think that's possible

edit: in fact, I'm not even sure it's financially possible to begin with.

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A bit OT, but I find it funny that teams are allegedly looking to Nabokov for a playoff push, considering Nabokov's history of shrinking in the playoff spotlight.

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02-21-2012, 11:14 PM
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If we re-sign Grossman and Kubina for his proposed values, re-sign Jagr, and acquire Nabby...I don't think that's possible

edit: in fact, I'm not even sure it's financially possible to begin with.
If the cap goes up to 67 million or around that, it's possible. I just see us signing one of grossman or Kubina, and trying hard for Suter in the off season. I was just agreeing with the other poster that I don't want to let anyone on our roster go (JVR) especially.

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If we re-sign Grossman and Kubina for his proposed values, re-sign Jagr, and acquire Nabby...I don't think that's possible

edit: in fact, I'm not even sure it's financially possible to begin with.
Assumed Pronger would be LTIR.

Also I do not know if I'd want Suter - at 7.5 million for 8 years I think. It is time the Flyers started to develop from within. They did a great job bringing people in as rookies this year.

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Here's an idea...

Let's keep JVR

Let's sign Grossman for 3/4 years at 2.5 per

Lets sign Kubina for 1 year at 2.5 million

Let's bring back Jagr for 1 year for the same money

Let's deal Bob at the draft

Let's sign Nabokov or some other 30+ league average goalie

Let Carle walk and replace him with our 2 rookies depending on whether the particular game needs skating or banging

Let's sign a good sized center who can play "D" and win a defensive zone face off with 30 seconds left in a period

Let's win the Stanley Cup
It doesn't sound bad but predicting contracts and such is always incredibly inaccurate.

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JVR is going to be a monster. That's all I have to say in this matter.
He was a monster tonight.

No way I trade him.

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02-21-2012, 11:58 PM
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He was a monster tonight.

No way I trade him.
I just want to point out how awesome JVR-Schenn-JV looked tonight.

Last year at this time, could you imagine having vanRiemsdyk, Schenn, and Voracek together one line?

You would probably say, "That's a line I keep together at all costs."

Well I agree. We need to commit to keeping all of this talent we've accumulated. Giroux, vanRiemsdyk, Schenn, Couturier, Voracek, Simmonds, and Read.

If we do that, I promise our offense will always be among the best if not the best in the NHL.

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