I would say that Lindy Ruff, up in Buffalo, is the clear cut choice. I don't know, I'm jusy more surprised by the success of Buffalo than by that of Carolina. Renney should be up there, but I'd rather criticize him than give him praise
They were all FORMER allstars. Ottawa arguably has a first ballot All-Star first line in:
I'd argue Hasek is old enough that he would be considered past his prime if you just look at his age. That was the problem with the Rangers of old, they'd sign players who were great in their prime, but over the hill by the time they signed him. That being said, Hasek is still a great goalie (great goalies usually don't have their skills decline that much as they get older... Roy probably could have played a few more years past what he played, his stats kept getting better over his career).
Renney's done a fine job, but he's not the reason why the Rangers have the league's leading scorer in Jagr, which does help. I think also people can't really look at the Rangers of the past 7 seasons and judge Renney in that light. There are only a couple players from those seasons on this roster currently. There was a year lost. It's pretty much a clean slate. Heck, Lou Lams has done a great job turning his team around and should be considered too, if the Devils continue their upward surge.
The Rangers and Hurricanes are the surprise teams of the year. THerefore, one these coaches deserve the honor. Many picked the Devs as preseason contenders. Thus, Lou does not deserve the award. One final thought. Renney, please note at home you have the ability to match lines. Please use it to your advantage
I think everybody needs to throw away any preseason thinking. Most teams had significant roster changes, and all teams didn't play last season. Further, all teams have needed time to adjust to new rules and get into game shape. It's quite difficult to predict where teams would end up. Heck, who would've thought that Ian Lapperiere would've bested his season points total by mid-season; ditto Mickael Samuelsson. That said, Renney's in the running, as should be Ruff. If Ottawa does win the President's trophy, it may be tough to exclude them. Lou Lams I'd consider only because of where the Devils were when he took over - I could care less about expectations, especially since the team that was picked to go somewhere has changed somewhat since that pick. And there are a few others who deserved consideration at this point. There's still some hockey left, so we'll see where this one goes.
Fletch: I hear what you are saying.If you go back and read my first posts in August and September,I did say that the Rangers could start off well due to the Hartford and Czech contingents and surprise. Nevertheless, when the so-called experts pick the Rangers dead last, Renney deserves loads of consideration as does Peter L.Coach of year, imo, goes to the coach who exceeds expectations.
If Ottawa does win the President's trophy, it may be tough to exclude them.
I don't think that gets that much consideration, to be honest. I don't remember either Nileson or Keenan getting consideration for the Adams trophy when the Rangers won the President's Trophy. And, neither of those teams were as highly regarded as Ottawa was this preseason.
wasn't even in the top 3. But of course my opinion and reality of two different things. I think he should be considered if Ottawa wins the President's Trophy - not win, but I think it's tough to exclude the coach of the regular season's best team from the Jack Adams. I thought Keenan not being considered after what was, I believe, the largest point swing ever, was wrong, so my thinking's different than the people who vote. There's a bunch of coaches who have seemed to have done well, and there's going to be a lot of disgruntled fans in the end if this keeps up.