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02-22-2012, 04:53 PM
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Well TDMM looks like I wouldn't have been trading with you anyway as Nesterenko was my guy. Back to the drawing board I guess. I really wanted Nesterenko because he would have been a perfect fit with Keon, and because he was in the movie that my team name is named for as Rob Lowe's father! You suck nik lol

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02-22-2012, 04:55 PM
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Boo!!! Still miss on him this draft!
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Well TDMM looks like I wouldn't have been trading with you anyway as Nesterenko was my guy. Back to the drawing board I guess. I really wanted Nesterenko because he would have been a perfect fit with Keon, and because he was in the movie that my team name is named for as Rob Lowe's father! You suck nik lol
he was also a hell of a singer.




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02-22-2012, 05:22 PM
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He's big, physical, defensively smart and great on thye PP. At this point that's just not available any other way.
things like physicality and defense are better when established over a longer length of time, too. Much like offensive value, I don't think that it's just something that's either there or not there.

example: I was strongly considering Cal Clutterbuck as a 4th liner in the A draft for his physicality. In the end I couldn't do it when there were guys with full careers of physicality and toughness.

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02-22-2012, 05:26 PM
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Was Robert really that gritty? Thats a bonus for me.

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Was Robert really that gritty? Thats a bonus for me.
He wasn't overly big but he was an energizer bunny and won a lot of board battles for the puck.

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02-22-2012, 05:33 PM
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He wasn't overly big but he was an energizer bunny and won a lot of board battles for the puck.
Yeah, thats the vision I had in mind as well. He will fit like a glove on our 2nd line with his buddy Rick Martin and Igor.

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02-22-2012, 05:50 PM
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Swamp Devils select Hod's "little" brother, Bruce Stuart, F

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Bruce Stuart is not any more lamblike than his brother Hod. The Stuart boys never run away from trouble.
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Stuart is huge (at 6'2, he was the tallest hockey player in his era), fast, physical, a great leader, and a clutch scorer. He's exactly what a pair of highly skilled but small players like Russell Bowie and Martin St. Louis need on their left side.

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Stuart is considered to be an early power forward, a forward who combines physical play with scoring ability, in hockey history.
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Stuart could well be considered one of the first power forwards of the game. Standing over six feet tall, he was a large man for his era, and it should not go unnoticed that his statistical totals included 162 penalty minutes over the same three-year period.
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He was an all-round player, capable of playing any of the forward positions although he excelled as a rover due to his excellent skating abilities.
  • First Team All Star (WPHL) in 1902, First Team All Star (IHL) in 1906, Second Team All Star (IHL) in 1907
  • Regularly captained his teams in the IHL
  • Won a Stanley Cup with the Montreal Wanderers in 1908
  • Sighed by the Ottawa Senators after winning with the Wanderers
  • Captained the 1909 Senators to the Stanley Cup, their first Cup since Silver Seven stopped dominating in 1906.
  • After the Senators lost the Cup in 1910 to the Wanderers, Bruce Stuart, as captain, was "given free hand in the selection of players for next winter." (Source)
  • Stuart captained his handpicked team to another Cup win in 1911.

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Stuart was a big, rough man, but he was also capable of handling the puck:

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Play was becoming rough, players from both sides getting after each other, apparently to settle old grudges, particularly Smith and Stuart. Stuart's face was covered with blood, but he continued to mix it up roughly until he was sent off for five minutes for dropping Smith with a crosscheck.
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Ottawa in the first half looked better than at any time this season. Bruce Stuart played his best game of the year and was really the star of the Ottawa team in the night's play. He worked without a letup, although evidently suffering from his bad knee in the second half. He was the best puck carrier for Ottawa and bored in more successfully than any forward on the ice. Walsh and Stuart made a dangerous pair in mid-ice.
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02-22-2012, 06:04 PM
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things like physicality and defense are better when established over a longer length of time, too. Much like offensive value, I don't think that it's just something that's either there or not there.

example: I was strongly considering Cal Clutterbuck as a 4th liner in the A draft for his physicality. In the end I couldn't do it when there were guys with full careers of physicality and toughness.
While true, most players now have some other downside. A big tough defensive d-man now probably has crummy puck skills. We are at the point now where there's a cost to ever perk.

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02-22-2012, 06:22 PM
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Now would be a good time to volunteer for the next thread.

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02-22-2012, 06:30 PM
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Okay, we're just going to close this one down now then while there is seemingly a lull in the action. Nothing worse than having to change threads when looking back on things that are mid discussion .

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